Global Warming

[sasguru]

BB, I used to think you're a troll, now I just think you're not very intelligent.

You know that university education you missed out on?
It would have taught you to think, attach the right likelihood and weighting to what people say, make better judgements etc etc.

It is striking how many of the poorly educated appear on this thread: yourself, Dim, EO, DA et. al.

There's a reason for that, none of you can reason.

hth, bidi

[BlasterBates]

It is a bit of an own goal, not to say tiresome once a claim has been discredited, simply to turn up the volume and repeat it ad infinitum. Until Easterbrook publishes his analysis of the GISP2 Greenland ice cores (which he won't), then it has the same status as a blog, and yes it is bloggers (plural) who have shown that he fakes graphs http://hot-topic.co.nz/cooling-gate-...s-the-incline/.



I did - my link was to Easterbrook's erstwhile University department's position statement. Previously I've cited Richard Alley, who has published on the data, wrote the definitive work on ice cores and says Easterbrook's use of the data is bogus. Which means you'll repeat it in a week or so.



Another tactic - a bogus link. That site is run by Steve McIntyre who has published precisely one paper, since rebutted and not on O2 isotopes. You expect people to trawl through 20,000 odd blog posts to find the one you mean?

So please - a cite to a study in the literature that supports your claim ....

It almost certainly was warmer in the past - at certain times, and in certain regions. But the evidence points to modern simultaneous warming on every continent being unprecendented in rate and magnitude.

How can scientists publish data on 1930 when you state the ice core only has temperaure up until 1870. Demonstrates complete ignorance don't you think?

[TimberWolf]

I will believe in this when the governments of the world actually start to promote things that would stop it, for instance population control, maximum one child per couple, abolish tax benefits for families.

While they continue to do things such as add a bit of extra tax on a flight while building more runways, make some cars have more tax on than others etc then I will continue to believe its a hoax.

The UK government is doing its bit by increasing the population at an unprecedented rate

[BlasterBates]

I'll just put another link to the paper that pjclarke obviously hasn't read, either because he has a problem on his internet connection or he's not really interested in a scientific debate, which has an almost identical graph to Easterbrook.


http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/~kmos/papers/B7-Science1998.pdf

The paper is entitled

Past Temperatures Directly from the Greenland Ice Sheet

The last Glacial maximum, the climatic optimum, the medieval Warmth, the little Ice Age and a warm period at 1930 are resolved from the GRIP reconstructions

According to pjclarke you can only reconstruct temperature up until 1870.

Now having discredited the blogger lets now look at some of the conclusions of the paper:

The results show that the temperatures in general have decrease since the Climate Optimum (1000 AD) and that no warming is observed in the most recent decades

Not much point in Easterbrook publishing something that is common knowledge. The graph in their published paper goes up until 2000. If this is a fake it should be retracted.

pjclarke is now going to have great difficulty refuting Easterbrook's graph now there is an identical one in the published literature.

[EternalOptimist]

BB, I used to think you're a troll, now I just think you're not very intelligent.

You know that university education you missed out on?
It would have taught you to think, attach the right likelihood and weighting to what people say, make better judgements etc etc.

It is striking how many of the poorly educated appear on this thread: yourself, Dim, EO, DA et. al.

There's a reason for that, none of you can reason.

hth, bidi

I may be poorly educated compared to egg-head like you professor, but I least I understand that advocating a theory that is not falsifiable is an act of faith, not an act of science

[DodgyAgent]

BS - Most cited authors on climate change

Percentage of professional scientific bodies that have not endorsed the IPCC ... 0%.

That CV is way out of date, btw I am now a rescue diver .

I don't know why you are so fanatical about global warming. Just think as sea levels rise how much more space you will have to dive in.

[Zoiderman]

I don't know why you are so fanatical about global warming. Just think as sea levels rise how much more space you will have to dive in.

...and more people to rescue

[BlasterBates]

I don't know why you are so fanatical about global warming. Just think as sea levels rise how much more space you will have to dive in.

Se levels are actually currently dropping:



A bit of an embarassment to Hansen whose office should now be under water according to his own prediction in 1988.

[Churchill]

If governments really want people to stop using their cars then ban them, or increase the price of Petrol to £500 a gallon.

Increase the "congestion charge" to £1000 per day.

They (the governments) don't want to tax people out of their cars, they just want to milk them of their money.

Now that smoking is losing its popularity the coffers need filling from other revenue streams.

[TimberWolf]

If governments really want people to stop using their cars then ban them, or increase the price of Petrol to £500 a gallon.

Increase the "congestion charge" to £1000 per day.

They (the governments) don't want to tax people out of their cars, they just want to milk them of their money.

Now that smoking is losing its popularity the coffers need filling from other revenue streams.

Already happening:

Peak car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Got my car tax renewal a few days ago: £210