Global Warming

[Spacecadet]

Hurrah! Another two posters added to the ignore list.

That should do my blood pressure some good.

I never liked you anyway so there!

[Zoiderman]

Like the twat that nearly knocked me over on the pavement yesterday, you mean?

"Road Tax avoiding scum" is mild.

A twat, is a twat and he'd very likely be a twat in a car too. I ride and drive, and I loathe them dicks too. Don't tar all cyclist as twats though, some aren't. Although the cocks riding 3 abreast down through Mark the other day nearly made me have an anger induced corronary, so I do get your drift.

[EternalOptimist]

put that goalpost down pj. It must be getting heavy

[Spacecadet]

If you don’t care about humans and the other species here, global warming may not be all that important; nature has caused warmer and colder times in the past, and life survived

I take issue with that, as it makes it look like we should be striving for some sort of artifically engineered climate which never gets warmer or colder just so that we can preserve things as they are.

[shaunbhoy]

I try and understand this, the arguments, but can't, to be frank. Some clever scientists here have tried explaining it to me

Maybe if you didn't have raisins for a brain?

[Churchill]

I take issue with that, as it makes it look like we should be striving for some sort of artifically engineered climate which never gets warmer or colder just so that we can preserve things as they are.

Rocking All Over The World?

[shaunbhoy]

put that goalpost down pj. It must be getting heavy

[BlasterBates]

I did misinterpret the conclusions of the borehole paper; it does indeed show temperatures to present-day, albeit at a resolution of about a decade. My apologies.

But according to Easterbrook, Greenland temperatures were higher than today 10,000 years ago, whereas the borehole data shows them about 2C lower, so it's hard to see how this qualifies as a vindication. The point is moot however, according to Richard Alley:

The bore hole/ice core data reconstructs the data to 1995 to be exact. The fact that they have analysed temps from the ice, using Oxygen isotopes up until the present time makes a complete mockery of the assertions on Skeptical Science that it isn't possible, i.e. the data only goes up until 1855. It quite obviously doesn't.

They also show temperatures over the last 10,000 years being siginficantly higher after coming out of the ice age.

All Easterbrook was doing was highlighting data that is in the public domain.

[escapeUK]

Yes but if they really wanted you to stop using your car the "Road Fund Licence" would have been £21k

Id be more than happy for fuel and tax to rise to the level where there was half as many people on the road and I could get places without getting stuck in traffic every day.

[OwlHoot]

Id be more than happy for fuel and tax to rise to the level where there was half as many people on the road and I could get places without getting stuck in traffic every day.

Where I'm based at clientco in Cambridge the roads are overrun by cyclists, many with about as much road sense as a drunken hedgehog.

I daren't drive faster than 20 MPH half the time, around the town anyway.