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    #71
    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    Indeed they do. But not one of them can show you anything convincing.
    So you claim. They claim otherwise. Just because you haven't seen it is not proof it doesn't exist.

    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    1. Historical evidence about Jesus. I believe someone called something like Jesus existed about 2000 years ago. I have no evidence he was supernatural apart from contradictory claims by some poorly-educated locals.
    That's why I said go read a book. You seem to be just making assumption without proper investigation of historical sources, I seem no point parroting something you could read yourself from someone more educated than I.

    2. You have not seen a miracle with your own eyes. So you have no direct proof of the supernatural.
    This is a weak point. You have no direct proof of the strong nuclear force.

    3. You've had prayers answered. Ever had prayers not answered? If so that is better explained by random outcomes than recourse to a supernatural power who intervened.
    Weak. If 2 blind people were prayed for and one spontaneously regained sight, it doesn't count because not 100% of prayers are answered? Your argument seems to be on the nature of the prayer, not the "sucess ratio". It's simple logic that if all prayers were answered, there would be no room for faith. What you pray for might not align with what God wants, it's not described as a slot-machine except by idiotic American TV Preachers. Again, "why don't prayers get answered" is a pretty elementary question, by which I mean it's been done to death. Even the bible answers it, and many books are written by theologians.

    So to summarise, there is no evidence for a supernatural being that would convince, say, for the sake of argument, a jury in a court?
    No. That would remove doubt. See this explanation:

    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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      #72
      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
      Its the natural psychological response to being challenged over your innermost beliefs, the very core of your being.
      Imagine living your life based on a lie - it just can't be possible and so the brain invents amazing justifications for the twaddle it believes in.
      Strong religious belief is a mental illness that the human species is particular prone to - some evolutionary scientists are just beginning to understand how it used to confer advantage to the species when it was in hunter-gatherer mode, but possibly does not do so any more.
      Quit this nonsense. Deal with the real reasons you reject God.

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        #73
        Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
        Quit this nonsense. Deal with the real reasons you reject God.
        I take it back, he's way worse than kandr. Anyone know who it belongs to, it's been around on and off quite a long time?
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #74
          Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
          It's convinced billions of people around the world of all levels of education, wealth etc.
          Most of these people are toddlers when they became convinced.
          Barney the purple dinosaur is also real to them.

          Being able to convince a toddler is not proof that the religions claims are real.
          "Condoms should come with a free pack of earplugs."

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            #75
            Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
            Most of these people are toddlers when they became convinced.
            Barney the purple dinosaur is also real to them.

            Being able to convince a toddler is not proof that the religions claims are real.
            Does it really matter what one person believes and what another doesn't?

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              #76
              Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
              Most of these people are toddlers when they became convinced.
              Barney the purple dinosaur is also real to them.
              They grow up and stay with Jesus and know Barney is fictional. Try and make better arguments.

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                #77
                Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
                They grow up and stay with Jesus and know Barney is fictional. Try and make better arguments.
                Barney doesn't condemn you to hell when you stop believing.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                  Does it really matter what one person believes and what another doesn't?
                  To missionaries of Christiannity it seems to matter. It is their job to convince people that the missionary is right and the target has to change his life in order to become "right".

                  To me it is not VERY important, but I do find it amazong that adults of average intelligence can actually delude themselves into believing in this god thing.
                  "Condoms should come with a free pack of earplugs."

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
                    Of course you want to hide behind pseudo-rational arguments rather than confront the real reason why you reject God. I understand that. You don't fool me.
                    Originally posted by kandr View Post
                    This is about the best argument a religious person can give sadly, that's why they resort to insults. Notice the lack of evidence, and diverting techniques.
                    For once I agree with Kandr. The idea that someone must have some horrible skeleton in the closet that makes them reject the notion of a magical being in the sky is really quite pathetic.

                    I'm all for letting people believe whatever they wish, as long as they don't intrude upon the rights of others, but I personally choose to reject religion entirely because the very idea is simply absurd.

                    That's my reason, and if it isn't good enough for you, then please feel free to go fornicate with yourself.
                    You won't be alerting anyone to anything with a mouthful of mixed seeds.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
                      Most of these people are toddlers when they became convinced.
                      Barney the purple dinosaur is also real to them.

                      Being able to convince a toddler is not proof that the religions claims are real.
                      In many countries, conversion is the main way people become Christians rather than parental influence. There are lots of countries where it is not the cultural norm to be Christian, and indeed where parents or even towns will dis-own people who convert.
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

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