Indian "noise" on techie websites

[suityou01]

It's even worse working with off shore teams. I am writing specs for a team based in the Ukraine. In the majority of cases their written English is poor but comprehension is good. They avoid speaking on VOIP calls like the plague.

The main contact medium is skype chat.

Yesterday one of the developers was asking me some really basic RTFS questions even though the deliverable was 99% through system testing (allegedly)

Then he totally through me with this gem

"Please confirm missions with bussnis urgently"

this on the back of my statement to him

"Please only develop what is in the specification and no more"

I mentioned I couldn't understand the question and the response

"Forget it"

stroppy little tw@

So not only do they not talk English, fail to understand the spec, then do their own sweet thing, but they also get stroppy!

[MarillionFan]

So not only do they not talk English, fail to understand the spec, then do their own sweet thing, but they also get stroppy!

Well you have something in common with them, because you can't write it either.

[d000hg]

How about you get your hiring staff to screen offshore staff for basic competency and decent English like you would for a local hire? If your company is too stupid to even reject people who they can't talk to, the fault is not with the overseas people, it's with your company.

Because there are great people out there. If you can be bothered to look for them.

[suityou01]

How about you get your hiring staff to screen offshore staff for basic competency and decent English like you would for a local hire? If your company is too stupid to even reject people who they can't talk to, the fault is not with the overseas people, it's with your company.

Because there are great people out there. If you can be bothered to look for them.

Not my company. My company would have done just that. ClientCo however dumped the English supplier for this Ukrainian one on the grounds of cost.

[mudskipper]

It's not just English - it's the lack of basic knowledge that we take for granted.

In my previous job we got a guy who sailed through the technical test, but had no idea what data might be expected on a credit card and how to validate it. Presumably, this also meant he'd never used an e-commerce website (which was what we were building). Same with addresses - he had no idea what fields to expect. In a job with detailed specs he'd have been fine, but it did highlight how much background knowledge I had taken for granted up until that point.

[minestrone]

It's not just English - it's the lack of basic knowledge that we take for granted.

If you are dumming down their knowledge they must be really really stupid.

[MarillionFan]

It's not just English - it's the lack of basic knowledge that we take for granted.

In my previous job we got a guy who sailed through the technical test, but had no idea what data might be expected on a credit card and how to validate it. Presumably, this also meant he'd never used an e-commerce website (which was what we were building). Same with addresses - he had no idea what fields to expect. In a job with detailed specs he'd have been fine, but it did highlight how much background knowledge I had taken for granted up until that point.

I've just spent the last two years managing a development team out of Bangalore and a team of crack contractors in the west.

In truth, the guys in Bangalore were ten times better than the contractors!!

To be honest though, the contractors were based in the US and we're all Indian as well.

[MarillionFan]

If you are dumbing down their knowledge they must be really really stupid.

cough.

FTFY

[mudskipper]

we're all Indian as well.

[minestrone]

cough.

FTFY

Thanks.