Offshoring - The Moral & Economic Case

[Churchill]

Question is..... re-skill in what?

There does not seem to be any hot area at the moment (and no, not even the tooooo tooooooo SAP groovy train appears pumping too much steam at the moment...). Every skill is being offshored, no preferences applied.

You could always bugger off to Italy! Those Olives won't pick themselves!

[fullyautomatix]

If the greedy CEO's of the british companies were not so selfish, they would be looking at the long term prospects for their companies. But we now have the situation where every CEO wants a million pound bonus and a huge pension fund in the short term. The mantra seems to be, outsource the **** out of the business to get cheap goods and then pocket the enormous bonuses. If things start to go pear shaped just sell the bloody company to Indian/Chinese investor.

[HairyArsedBloke]

p.s. I don't go sarf of the river. Before you ask.

That's alright, I never go sarf of the river anyway. I'm not sure I would ever want to ride in a cab where the driver would go sarf, who knows what you could catch in that cab.

[doodab]

Top skills for the new economy:

Lying
Cheating
Stealing

[HairyArsedBloke]

Top skills for the new economy:

Lying
Cheating
Stealing

I'm BOOOOOOOOOMED!

[Francko]

You could always bugger off to Italy! Those Olives won't pick themselves!

I bugger off every weekend for shopping there. I am about 25 km off from the border. :-)

Problem is that an IT consultant in Italy has always made the same money as an olive picker.

[minestrone]

If someone comes into the country from out with the EU to work then their employers should be forced to pay them the top percentile rather than the lowest percentile wages like just now, that way you can be sure the local labour market is truly exhausted and you are only hiring the very best from outside.

It would never happen though.

[phil5476]

QUOTE:
'It is about Indian staff are body shopped into UK offices. Last year there were by some estimates 55000 'offshore' people onshore. Many of these roles (in my experience) are not suitable to be located in India. So that's c.55000 UK redundancies.'

The core of your argument is completely wrong. 55k ICT's did not lead to 55k UK redundancies.

The options were, 55k ICTs come here to work or the work gets done by 55k Indians in India.
Which of these is best for the UK ??

PZZ

All my arguments are wrong to you as you don't even read the bits you quote.

[phil5476]

Adapt, re-skill and overcome (or roll over and die), innit...

That is the strategy i'm taking. That said adapting the legal framework to benefit the government & people is a good way to overcome.

[phil5476]

Pzz,

You didn't spend anytime reading the OP did you.

I've been reading this thread trying to discern what your argument actually is. You seem to hop from 'its racist' to 'offshoring is ok' to some lightweight economic arguments.

I made the OP quite specific in the hope that it would stimulate some reasoned debate and AVOID getting bogged down in irrelevant offshoots. But you managed to screw that up. Funny thing about people who don't want to take the time to understand something is that they always try and bring everyone down to their level.