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Could they discriminate successfully on that ?Originally posted by ratewhore View PostYour argument seems to point towards anyone can do anything they want to, within the bounds of the law.
Come to work dressed in an adult romper suit and see how long your contract lasts.
Court 1
Defense : "And so your honour, the Defendant, Mr Perkins claims unfair victimisation for wearing a silly wig and costume to work"
Judge : "Er.......Case Dismissed !"
The jury file out.
Judge :"Mr Perkins ? A word in your ear please ?"
Perkins : "Yes, M'lud"
Judge : "I don't suppose for a moment that the shop where you got Exhibit 1 from do Adult Baby Romper suits by any chance do they, hmmm ?"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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But what you may perceive as my intolerance to other people having an opinion, may be mis-perception on your part. We all see things differently don't we ?Originally posted by Churchill View PostI don't give a sh!t if you dress like a twat. What I find offensive is your intolerance to other people having an opinion.Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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My perception is just that, my perception. Just because it doesn't agree with your own doesn't mean it is any less valid.Originally posted by Board Game Geek View PostBut what you may perceive as my intolerance to other people having an opinion, may be mis-perception on your part. We all see things differently don't we ?
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Ok. I'm prepared to learn your perception.Originally posted by Churchill View PostMy perception is just that, my perception. Just because it doesn't agree with your own doesn't mean it is any less valid.
A lesson you'd do well to learn!
I'm being honest and serious.
Show me everything about the FM's and then I can make a fair and balanced decision, which surely is a good thing ?Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Freemasonry is not the topic of discussion - you can form your own opinion I may not respect that opinion but I respect that fact that you can have one.Originally posted by Board Game Geek View PostOk. I'm prepared to learn your perception.
I'm being honest and serious.
Show me everything about the FM's and then I can make a fair and balanced decision, which surely is a good thing ?Comment
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In my humble perception and opinion, I shall gracefully accept your evasion and platitude at the end.Originally posted by Churchill View PostFreemasonry is not the topic of discussion - you can form your own opinion I may not respect that opinion but I respect that fact that you can have one.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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It is without the least equivocation, mental reservation, or self-evasion.Originally posted by Board Game Geek View PostIn my humble perception and opinion, I shall gracefully accept your evasion and platitude at the end.
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I find wearing a tie to be a very silly thing to do. Its purpose is to hide the fact that your buttons are arranged so that you can do them up, meaning you cannot afford a gentleman's gentleman to do it for you. It is now a silly, pointless item.
Fashion in clothes in the workplace seems to have stalled this past 70 years, unlike most of history. Provided what you wear keeps you warm and dry and hides the naughty bits, what difference does it make?
Around here, many of the blokes wear the clothes they wore in the Indian or Asian countries they come from; they look an awful lot like ladies' PJs with a frock over the top. But I won't say that to the face of one of them - I'll be duffed up.
I also dare anyone to wander up to a Scot in a kilt and call him a transvestite.
What we wear and consider to be normal is all just cultural.
The objection to transvestitism is based in the perceived threat that wearer is making to society's conventions and a fear the individual will embarrass us. When I was younger I also had a hatred of 'pooftas'; at one point I had a colleague who started coming in to work in a floral frock and make up. He looked absolutely ridiculous and was humiliated and slapped around a bit. Now I am older, wiser and more secure in the knowledge of my sexuality, I look back and find that young bloke's confusion a bit sad - he was just trying to work out who and what he was.
And if I see a bloke these days in a skirt my reaction would be "So you're out to shock. I lived through the punk era mate and you haven't got a clue."
There was a cracking radio play about a family man in middle age who gets caught dressed up; it was hilarious and sad. (The woman from the Oxo ads was the wife and the husband was an actor whose name I cannot recall but he's a very blokey bloke.) It did a good job of explaining one reason behind how a heterosexual bloke feels the need to dress up. Not my cup of tea but I do realise seeing some bloke in a frock does not harm me either.My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.Comment
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