A Victory for Common Sense

[VectraMan]

Like hell this is the country that refuses to presecute it's own mercenarys for raping one of it's own citizen's, in a country/zone controled by the US because "it did not happen on US soil"

Not to mention locating their "enemy combatants" jail in another country just so they can avoid their own laws.

[AtW]

All of them? IP numbers please.

IP addresses are virtual numbers that have no bearing on this case - it's not your worry anyway, whoever prosecutes him would disclose enough information for court to make decision.

[Mich the Tester]

whoever prosecutes him would disclose enough information for court to make decision

might be interesting

[AtW]

If he hacked say...Iran, North Korea, China would he be considered Criminal or Hero by "western justice"?

If you do it on your own as a private citizen then in all probability you will be criminal here also - but if you work for GCHQ then you are doing your job which authorised you to do such things.

Like hell this is the country that refuses to presecute it's own mercenarys for raping one of it's own citizen's, in a country/zone controled by the US because "it did not happen on US soil"

Guilt should be proven - there is established procedure for it, and if evidence is tainted or given under duress then how can you prosecute it? Of course in this case criminals will walk, better than putting innocents in jail in my view.

[ratewhore]

You're all missing the point:

Are there really UFO's?

[lilelvis2000]

You know, under the Dublin II agreement dealing with asylum seekers you have 18 months max (regardless of judicial proceedings or absconding) to extradite someone -- seems that the Conservatives could do something similar. Set a maximum timeline after which the person cannot be removed.
But we like to lick American balls don't we Tony?

That's two decisions against the government in two days...not a bad week.

[AtW]

might be interesting

Why do you care about CIA IP addresses?

Anyway, that guy may get away with his crime but he certainly won't be able to travel anywhere near USA: I'd certainly be interested to see how his future career develops, though he'll probably make a few millions quid writing books.

[AtW]

A more interesting question is actually why Conservatives support him so much?

The answer I think is that some of their friends must be afraid they'd get extradited to USA - Natwest 3 pleaded guilty quickly after they got there, at least they got done for Enron, and what would happen to good chaps in the City who helped Madoff, Lehman Brothers and others?

[Not So Wise]

Guilt should be proven

And there you kill any argument you might have in favor for this extradition.

You do know there have been extradition treatys for years between the US and UK for serious criminal offences, but guess what? they all required reasonable evidence of guilt (in line with the laws of the country that would be forcing one of it's own citizens to be removed) before someone could be extradited.

The treaty that they tried to extradite this fellow on requires no such thing. In pratice (not theory) the USA could demand you be extradited because they decided SKA broke their laws . No proof of what laws you might have broken, nor evidence required. Just their say so, nothing else.

The only thing then required is for some politico in the UK to say yes or no, no due process, no trial, nothing. You are on the next plane out of here

And that is why the treaty should be revoked, because it puts US law above UK law

[AlfredJPruffock]

A more interesting question is actually why Conservatives support him so much?

Could it be that the Conservatives resent the notion of UK law been over-ruled by the US in such a cavalier manner - that they can see the entire episode is deplorable - perhpas you have been living too long in Labourist Britain that you cannot appreciate the concept of Justice Atw .