Global Warming

[BlasterBates]

You got Global Warming. See, you wanted Local Warming.

if only....

hmm....

Bring back global warming, where's Al when you need him.

[Gordon Brown]

Coldest winter in 30 years

Proof, if needed, of the effectiveness of carbon taxes on combating Global Warming.

I thank you.

Gordo.

[shaunbhoy]

He is the smartest modeller and mathemetician on this forum.

He could not be trusted to count his buttocks and get the same number twice!

[shaunbhoy]

WHS. Of course cretins like EO and DP don't know the difference between weather and climate.

31,000+ American Scientists Reject Global Warming Theory - Petition
As of 9:25 AM Saturday, Global Warming was still AWOL - Where's Al Gore!


In my lifetime, and in the position of a working academic scientist, on two occasions I've signed open letters or petitions on major scientific controversies. Firstly, I signed the Scientists Declaration on Nuclear Power, which was circulated even before Chernobyl or Three Mile Island, but which basically predicted such disasters, as well as the continuing problem of what to do with accumulated atomic waste materials. Secondly, the Open Letter of the Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV Hypothesis of AIDS, which basically called for critical reviews of how AIDS develops or is transmitted, outside of the predominant HIV hypothesis -- yes, it is only an hypothesis, never proven. Well, here we are today, more than 20 or 30 years later, and virtually every prediction made by those groups of dissenting scientists have been proven correct. Now comes the theory about global warming -- is the warming real? If real, is it long-term? If real and long-term, is it being driven by CO2, and is that CO2 being increased by human industrial output alone, or by any human activity? Four or five important questions in those sentences, but the fact is that not one of them has been definitively answered with certainty by modern science.
The reader will know about the 2000 or 3000 "scientists" who have lent their names to the IPCC (Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change) Report on global climate change, because this has been repeatedly blared out in media reports, as if "voting" on scientific issues had some merit. It does not. But only a few will know the details of the fraudulent IPCC petition signatures. Such as, that most of those signators are not scientists at all, but rather political hacks or environmental activists appointed to governmental panels by the various UN member-states. Only a much smaller number are authentic natural scientists with PhDs, and even fewer with expertise in the earth, atmospheric or environmental sciences. A few had their names included on the IPCC without permissions, to jack up the numbers, having been a part of the IPCC evaluation team, but who dissented from its unscientific and politically motivated positions and conclusions -- but their names were included anyway, over their loudly voiced objections.

Here's a new one, which seems more authentic:

Global Warming Petition Project
31,072 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,021 with PhDs

http://www.petitionproject.org/

In any case, even global warming advocates will have to admit, that 31,000 and 9,000 are larger numbers than 3000, even if their arithmetic is stunningly inaccurate on everything else. Yes, when global CO2 levels in the glacial ice-core records routinely rise and fall some 500 years after temperature rises and falls, this does indicate that if a direct causality exists, that it must be temperature driving CO2 levels, and not the other way around. As when the ocean warms a little bit, it tends to release gigantic amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. This is fact, even if the Pied Piper .... oops, I mean, Al Gore, says just the opposite with a nice smile on his face, speaking in metered tones like he is speaking to children.

Come on sg, give us some more "Modelling Data"!!

[pzz76077]

Fact: globally, there has been little variation in the weather cycle over the past 10,000 years. The sun will explode and destroy the earth in the next 3-5 million years.

Global warming is just marketing hype from failed US Presidents and American corporations that want to make a market place for the next 500 years.

PZZ

[NotAllThere]

If there is more energy in the atmosphere (which is what Global Warming means), then you not only get the average temperature globally rising, you also get more extreme weather.

I recommend Fallen Angels by Pournelle and Niven. It's a bit self indulgent (Science Fiction fans rescue astronauts from a technologically hostile society), but it has some fun about ice ages, radiation and stuff.

[TimberWolf]

Climate change is a belief system, as there's no way lay people can verify or derive climate laws for themselves in the same way they could with e.g. Newtons Laws. You just have to believe scientists rather than high priests or ancient manuscripts. And as with with religion the safest bet is to believe, especially as the climate has always changed.

[sasguru]

He could not be trusted to count his buttocks and get the same number twice!

If I want to count my buttocks I just rememeber I have one more buttock cheek than you have neurons.

HTH

[sasguru]

31,000+ American Scientists Reject Global Warming Theory - Petition
As of 9:25 AM Saturday, Global Warming was still AWOL - Where's Al Gore!


In my lifetime, and in the position of a working academic scientist, on two occasions I've signed open letters or petitions on major scientific controversies. Firstly, I signed the Scientists Declaration on Nuclear Power, which was circulated even before Chernobyl or Three Mile Island, but which basically predicted such disasters, as well as the continuing problem of what to do with accumulated atomic waste materials. Secondly, the Open Letter of the Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV Hypothesis of AIDS, which basically called for critical reviews of how AIDS develops or is transmitted, outside of the predominant HIV hypothesis -- yes, it is only an hypothesis, never proven. Well, here we are today, more than 20 or 30 years later, and virtually every prediction made by those groups of dissenting scientists have been proven correct. Now comes the theory about global warming -- is the warming real? If real, is it long-term? If real and long-term, is it being driven by CO2, and is that CO2 being increased by human industrial output alone, or by any human activity? Four or five important questions in those sentences, but the fact is that not one of them has been definitively answered with certainty by modern science.
The reader will know about the 2000 or 3000 "scientists" who have lent their names to the IPCC (Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change) Report on global climate change, because this has been repeatedly blared out in media reports, as if "voting" on scientific issues had some merit. It does not. But only a few will know the details of the fraudulent IPCC petition signatures. Such as, that most of those signators are not scientists at all, but rather political hacks or environmental activists appointed to governmental panels by the various UN member-states. Only a much smaller number are authentic natural scientists with PhDs, and even fewer with expertise in the earth, atmospheric or environmental sciences. A few had their names included on the IPCC without permissions, to jack up the numbers, having been a part of the IPCC evaluation team, but who dissented from its unscientific and politically motivated positions and conclusions -- but their names were included anyway, over their loudly voiced objections.

Here's a new one, which seems more authentic:

Global Warming Petition Project
31,072 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,021 with PhDs

http://www.petitionproject.org/

In any case, even global warming advocates will have to admit, that 31,000 and 9,000 are larger numbers than 3000, even if their arithmetic is stunningly inaccurate on everything else. Yes, when global CO2 levels in the glacial ice-core records routinely rise and fall some 500 years after temperature rises and falls, this does indicate that if a direct causality exists, that it must be temperature driving CO2 levels, and not the other way around. As when the ocean warms a little bit, it tends to release gigantic amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. This is fact, even if the Pied Piper .... oops, I mean, Al Gore, says just the opposite with a nice smile on his face, speaking in metered tones like he is speaking to children.

Come on sg, give us some more "Modelling Data"!!

So you've copied and pasted some crap from some "scientist" who:

1. Is against nuclear power
2. Thinks that HIV has no connection to AIDS
3. Doesn't believe in Global warming



Hang about, the cretin bus will be along to pick you up when you've finished gurning ...

[Scary]

Fact: globally, there has been little variation in the weather cycle over the past 10,000 years. The sun will explode and destroy the earth in the next 3-5 million years.
PZZ

Billion, US style as in thousand million, don't scare us!