I'll bet they were glad to have a firearm at home to defend themselves

[gingerjedi]

I have nothing more to say.

[AtW]

So the law should prevent people from getting angry? In the UK disagreements often end with nothing more than bruised ego's and embarrassment, I'm happy to keep it that way.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs09/hosb0209.pdf

A gun was involved in 53 of the 763 homicides recorded in England and Wales for the 12 months up to 4 November 2008, most were gang or drug related.

Sensible drug laws would be a better option if you want to prevent most burglaries.

Homicide statistics from 1972-1997, page 18: shows that firearms were used in homocides about 4-10% of all murders, and how many of those were illegal firearms? Probably nearly all.

Consequently this means 90%+ of murders were done (when handguns were legal in this country) with other weapons, so WTF legal handguns got banned?

The murder rates actually increased in this country and that was not due to firearms.

The real insanity however is that defensive non-lethal CS/pepper sprays are illegal - that's total and utter bulltulip.

[Ardesco]

Gun ownership is gone, it has had its day and as a personal friend of many people who went to the school in Dunblane where some freakazoid with a legal gun shot a class of kids, public ownership of guns ended that day. Final, complete, gone, caput, over, never again.

Dunblane could still happen he used a .22 pistol. The governments wonderful plan to stop Dunblane happening again was to make 9mm pistols illegal .

I would be happy for the gun laws to be relaxed slightly so that they were back at the level they were before Dunblane. Members of Pistol/Rifle clubs are generally pretty switched on people who respect the firearms that they use and have them locked up properly in a real armoury when they are not using them.

I would not want the general population to be able to own a firearm, or keep one at home. In my opinion the general population is not not capable of handling a firearm as they will not show it the respect it deserves, and they will not keep it properly secured when they are not using it for legitimate reasons.

[RichardCranium]

I would not want the general population to be able to own a firearm, or keep one at home. In my opinion the general population is not not capable of handling a firearm as they will not show it the respect it deserves, and they will not keep it properly secured when they are not using it for legitimate reasons.

WHS

(That's what I wanted to say but keep being too emotive about it. )

[Diver]

I would not want the general population to be able to own a firearm, or keep one at home. In my opinion the general population is not not capable of handling a firearm as they will not show it the respect it deserves, and they will not keep it properly secured when they are not using it for legitimate reasons.

The general population have proven over and over again, with multitudes of dead children as evidence, that they are incapable of keeping dogs or operating cars responsibly. What on earth makes anybody think that they would be capable of responsible firearm ownership

[Board Game Geek]

The general population have proven over and over again, with multitudes of dead children as evidence, that they are incapable of keeping dogs or operating cars responsibly.

Indeed, let's ban cars and dogs.

It's too risky otherwise.

[Diver]

Indeed, let's ban cars and dogs.

It's too risky otherwise.

Why add unnecessary risk?

I would certainly support the banning of a lot of dog breeds, and lifetime driving bans for drink drivers on first offence.

[AtW]

I would be happy for the gun laws to be relaxed slightly so that they were back at the level they were before Dunblane. Members of Pistol/Rifle clubs are generally pretty switched on people who respect the firearms that they use and have them locked up properly in a real armoury when they are not using them.

I would not want the general population to be able to own a firearm, or keep one at home. In my opinion the general population is not not capable of handling a firearm as they will not show it the respect it deserves, and they will not keep it properly secured when they are not using it for legitimate reasons.

Is it possible to now go to a rifle club and shoot from 9mm handguns and others on the premises using club's weapons? It seems to me that's not the case - it is INSANE situation when Govt has to give special permission for Olympic team to hold events in this country.

[AtW]

I would not want the general population to be able to own a firearm, or keep one at home. In my opinion the general population is not not capable of handling a firearm as they will not show it the respect it deserves, and they will not keep it properly secured when they are not using it for legitimate reasons.

Firearms are not for everyone - maybe 10-15% of population should qualify, that's enough to have good criminal deterrent.

Training requirements should be much higher to those who wish to get firearm - it's a deadly weapon and should be sold to people who can demonstrate they will take time to learn how to use it properly.

[AtW]

I have nothing more to say.

Let's ban weapon simulated suicide icons on this board as well - or at the very least require those who oppose firearms to refrain from using them