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    #51
    The headline figures are also based on immigration statistics from 2008, before the economic situation changed, and assumes migration patterns will stay the same as the period 2003-2008. We've already seen a decline in inward migration and an increase in earlier migrants returning home that is likely to continue as the eastern european economies catch up with the west.

    The figures also indicate that only 45% of the predicted population increase will be due to immigration, the rest is down to natural population growth and that balance will shift further if the immigration figures drop as expected, and as they have already started to.
    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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      #52
      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
      Go live in the USA then. They need immigrants.
      Did that for 2 years already.

      PZZ

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        #53
        Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
        Well that's a ridiculous argument. The US couldn't have happened without immigrants because there was practically nobody there before whitey arrived!
        Riiiiiiight.
        McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
        Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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          #54
          Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
          Plenty of space = our beautiful countryside. Over my dead body will that get built on to provide housing for a completely unnecessary influx of migrants.
          Odd. ... I assume (I know that's bad) that you are yourself a immigrant. Very odd. I'm a immigrant and I don't have a problem with immigration - otherwise I wouldn't be here!

          South East is where all the opportunity is I'm afraid. Up here there is no hope really. Once you lose your job- you'll be outta work for a while - a long while - nevermind the recession.

          Now if companies had incentives and people had incentives to live and work up here...then things might be different. As it stands everyone and their grandson want to work in the City and get those £M bonuses.
          McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
          Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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            #55
            Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
            Odd. ... I assume (I know that's bad) that you are yourself a immigrant. Very odd. I'm a immigrant and I don't have a problem with immigration - otherwise I wouldn't be here!

            South East is where all the opportunity is I'm afraid. Up here there is no hope really. Once you lose your job- you'll be outta work for a while - a long while - nevermind the recession.

            Now if companies had incentives and people had incentives to live and work up here...then things might be different. As it stands everyone and their grandson want to work in the City and get those £M bonuses.
            The reason why people want to live and work in the south east is because there are fewer socialists down here pouring envy and hatred onto anyone with the temerity to make some money. Up north socialist coincils and socialist institutions expect everyone else to provide them with a living. Down south we have driven the socialist scum out.

            And also there is greater tolerance of people from different ethnic backgrounds than anywhere else (on the planet)
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #56
              Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
              I'm not a troll.
              That's not the way she tells it.
              You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.

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                #57
                Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
                Plenty of space = our beautiful countryside.
                'Our' beautiful countryside, I thought you said you were descended from recent Easter European immigrants, when did it become yours?

                Isn't it a bit hypocritical to slag off other Eastern Europeans who want to emigrate to the UK just because your family did it sooner??
                You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Amiga500 View Post
                  'Our' beautiful countryside, I thought you said you were descended from recent Easter European immigrants, when did it become yours?

                  Isn't it a bit hypocritical to slag off other Eastern Europeans who want to emigrate to the UK just because your family did it sooner??
                  Recent = 1950s. My grandparents on my mother's side came here to escape the commies - defected in other words. So, yes I think I'm entitled to use the possessive pronoun in this instance!

                  I'm also not slagging off Eastern Europeans - as I think I made clear earlier in this thread it's the sheer scale of this deluge that is the problem.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
                    Recent = 1950s. My grandparents on my mother's side came here to escape the commies - defected in other words. So, yes I think I'm entitled to use the possessive pronoun in this instance!

                    I'm also not slagging off Eastern Europeans - as I think I made clear earlier in this thread it's the sheer scale of this deluge that is the problem.
                    What is this scale thing- in percentage terms it is not as big as it has been in past history??

                    Where is the problem??

                    PZZ

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bekarovka View Post
                      Recent = 1950s. My grandparents on my mother's side came here to escape the commies - defected in other words. So, yes I think I'm entitled to use the possessive pronoun in this instance!
                      I don't think you are entitled to anything.

                      That is the problem these days, everyone has a bloody jumped up sense of entitlement.

                      My family have a history of british military service going back to the 1900s, but do I prance around acting entitled, do I f***, I just get on with it.

                      You should count yourself lucky we got involved when Hitler invaded.
                      You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.

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