Speeding fines

[Board Game Geek]

Have a word with the local plod and the council, and tell them you feel rightly justified in not having to obey the road traffic signs, becuase you are clearly important enough for them not to apply to you.

[Alf W]

I'm so going burn in hell for this, but why not just buy a camera detector, I did that years ago, no points since and seems to make you more aware the 'ups n downs' in speed limits on various bits of road.

Because it doesn't save you when some sneaky plod has backed his pig wagon up some farm track on a bend on a rural road that sees maybe 5 cars a day. B*stards!

You could try the 'Fergie defence' that you had the two bob bits.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I'm so going burn in hell for this, but why not just buy a camera detector, I did that years ago, no points since and seems to make you more aware the 'ups n downs' in speed limits on various bits of road.

Don't see any reason for you to burn in hell for that (from me at least) - I have one too, very useful for areas that I'm unfamiliar with.

[scaramanga]

How close is too close?

Depends on a number of factors including, but not limited to:

The alleged speed.
The stopping distance at alleged speed.
The period of time required by guidelines to take a reliable reading. With the radar gun in my case it was 3 seconds.

They also have to form the opinion you were speeding first, instead of just pointing the radar gun indiscriminately at all vehicles. The plod in my case said he formed the opinion I was speeding before the speed limit sign. I argued that was inherently flawed - how can you form the opinion someone was speeding if they are outside the area where the limit applies?

[TimberWolf]

Not worth creating a new thread for, but I've yet to succumb to the temptation of Sat Nav thus far (though have had my weak moments), but this looks cheap. Is it cheap and nasty? I don't have a great deal of use for a Sat Nav, or a car at the moment, so it will be more for occasional use and might be fun knowing how high that freaking hill I just cycled up was, and where I went wrong trying to follow the 'cycleway' (aka hideously dangerous B roads with no provision laid on for bikes whatsoever).

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Not worth creating a new thread for, but I've yet to succumb to the temptation of Sat Nav thus far (though have had my weak moments), but this looks cheap. Is it cheap and nasty? I don't have a great deal of use for a Sat Nav, or a car at the moment, so it will be more for occasional use and might be fun knowing how high that freaking hill I just cycled up was, and where I went wrong trying to follow the 'cycleway' (aka hideously dangerous B roads with no provision laid on for bikes whatsoever).

Dunno about that - my Nokia E71 came with a free app to tell you how high that hill was - it can record your speed (avg, max etc) and plot a map of your route. I use it for cycling.

I also downloaded Google Maps for free, it runs on the phone.

[BrilloPad]

Not worth creating a new thread for, but I've yet to succumb to the temptation of Sat Nav thus far (though have had my weak moments), but this looks cheap. Is it cheap and nasty? I don't have a great deal of use for a Sat Nav, or a car at the moment, so it will be more for occasional use and might be fun knowing how high that freaking hill I just cycled up was, and where I went wrong trying to follow the 'cycleway' (aka hideously dangerous B roads with no provision laid on for bikes whatsoever).

You get what you pay for.

I got a mid priced SAtNav. Wish I had bought an expensive one.

[pmeswani]

Hardly dangerously fast though - and the same road is 40 if travelling in the opposite diection. There is no difference in each side. And it was 40 until about 12 months ago when they just decided to change it to 30 - on one side (????)

Well, if you manage to kill a child next time when you drive 40mph on a 30mph road, feel free to come back to us and tell us how the law has treated you unfairly. The speed limit is there for a reason... maybe because there have been too many accidents on that stretch of road?

[Bagpuss]

Don't be silly with all the "Kill a Child" brainwashed emotive clap trap. Speed cameras are there to make money and often the limits are dropped just as the camera is installed (I wonder why). Nobody advocates speeding in built up areas, but bear in mind speed cameras are not always the answer. For example the M11 speed camera has had a negative effect on accidents since introduced. Areas where cameras have been removed have seen accidents fall. Warning signs have proved more effective (see swindon). Clearly, it's more safe to watch the road than your speedometer, not to mention the danger of suddenly braking motorists

[blacjac]

I'm so going burn in hell for this, but why not just buy a camera detector, I did that years ago, no points since and seems to make you more aware the 'ups n downs' in speed limits on various bits of road.

I thought detectors were now illegal.
I know devices that know where speed cameras are and warns you using GPS are fine, but I thought things that actually detect cameras had been made illegal.