Geert Wilders in Denmark: Deporting millions of Muslims may be necessary

[Cyberman]

I just dislike the term "deportation", it evokes obviously what happen to the jews during last WW.

I wonder if Wilders has used the term on purpose?

Jews and Muslims are totally different in their effect on western society. The Jews are prepared to accept democracy being above religion. The majority of muslims in my experience put religion above any other form of rule.

That is why IMO Islam is so dangerous to our future, as we sleepwalk into them being in the majority within a few decades. Deportation must be considered for those that are unwilling to put democratic rule above religious rule because it is impossible to integrate with people of that mindset.

[Le Rosbif]

Not if you stand up to them they dont!

Do they now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkirk_evacuation

Unfortunately we don't have a channel to hide behind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_the_Marne

[Le Rosbif]

Rosbif sounds like he would be a Petainist.

Petain did accept the invasion and encourage the cooperation with the muslims, huh... Germans

Pardon the lapsus

[Mich the Tester]

I just dislike the term "deportation", it evokes obviously what happen to the jews during last WW.

I wonder if Wilders has used the term on purpose?

Wilders has become more and more radical as time has gone by. Only 5 or 6 years ago he was a member of a moderate right wing party (VVD) who objected to Turkey becoming a member of the EU and campaigned for a reform of social security based on more individual policies to reflect individual needs and aspirations. He started his own party due to VVD's refusal to oppose negotiations with Turkey. He first said he was not against Islam, but against the extremes of Islam. That seems inherently reasonable. However, since leaving the VVD he has set up a 'party', in inverted commas because it has no democratic structures for members to influence policy, and holds policy debates in secret away from the attention of the media. Obviously, in a similar fashion to groups of Islamic extremists, the groupthink and intellectual isolation has led to him spouting more and more extremist statements. Nobody within his closed circle he calls the Freedom Party challenges his beliefs, so he just believes his own nonsense more and more. He has called for the Quran to be banned, the complete end to immigration from muslim societies (I'd have been f**ked by that one and so would his chum Ayaan Hirsi Ali), and now the mass deportation of muslims.

All the while he becomes more and more extreme; he needs to, because that's how he gets attention. He has had nothing to say on the economic issues facing the Netherlands, walking out of the parliamentary debate, supposedly in protest, but economists have calculated that his economic policies would result in a 4 fold growth of national debt and a drastic rise in unemployment; in other words, he has no policy and nothing useful to say about the most pressing issue of the day.

Please, if you want to discuss Islam and it's ramifications in Europe, don't bother with Geert Wilders; the man is just another extremist charlatan, rather similar to Le Pen and Haider, who holds up simplistic solutions for complex issues and thereby gains votes from people who've been sorely let down by the education system. I feel sorry for his supporters.

[snaw]

The majority of muslims in my experience put religion above any other form of rule.

In your experience, eh. Is that so?

Somehow I don't think you know too many muslims. I know a few here, and I'd bet most people posting here who know any as well would agree that that statement is, as usual for you, complete and utter bollocks.

[Le Rosbif]

Jews and Muslims are totally different in their effect on western society. The Jews are prepared to accept democracy being above religion. The majority of muslims in my experience put religion above any other form of rule.

That is why IMO Islam is so dangerous to our future, as we sleepwalk into them being in the majority within a few decades. Deportation must be considered for those that are unwilling to put democratic rule above religious rule because it is impossible to integrate with people of that mindset.

I indeed think too that what is the most threating about the islamisation of Europe is the way muslims constantly challenge republican laws.
Most european countries have a clear separation between the religion and the state. I'd like it to stay this way.

[sasguru]

The majority of muslims in my experience put religion above any other form of rule.

Is that so? Know a lot of Muslims do you?
It's not surprising that you have the unanimous vote of this forum for Chief Village Idiot.

[sasguru]

In your experience, eh. Is that so?

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Are you me or am I you?

[minestrone]

Most european countries have a clear separation between the religion and the state. I'd like it to stay this way.

That completely contradicts what you have been battering on about.

Anyway, roastcock is clearly a sockpuppet.

[snaw]

Are you me or am I you?

Depends on whose round it is ...