Geert Wilders in Denmark: Deporting millions of Muslims may be necessary

[Cyberman]

You want to try listening to what he says instead of just watching it and making up your own dialogue then.
He clearly stated (twice) that Muslims who wish to integrate and settle are quite welcome.
What he opposes is the Islamification of his country and Europe as a whole.
He is afraid (rightly or wrongly) that growing populations of Muslims will eventualy out number the rest of the population and will then demand Sharia law and governance by Islam.
Islam for non Muslims can be a far worse regime than any fascist dictatorship than Europe has ever seen The primary example of this kind of regime is Afghanistan under the Taliban.
Saudi Arabia also practices restriction of religion to non Muslims as well as removing other freedoms we take for granted here in the West.

As for the church conversion. Why not. I am surprised that they got planning permission for theos green domes though. Not exactly in keeping are they. Why can't British Mosques conform to a British architecture?

His viewpoint is just plain commonsense, but of course Labour morons see this as racist. If we Christians want to remain in the majority in our own country and maintain a democracy we will have to adopt some sensible immigration policies.

[Le Rosbif]

His viewpoint is just plain commonsense, but of course Labour morons see this as racist. If we Christians want to remain in the majority in our own country and maintain a democracy we will have to adopt some sensible immigration policies.

Amen to that.

[The Lone Gunman]

You guys who said I was a moron, thick as pig tulip, bigoted twat.
I just realised you were right.
I must be if I seem to be on the same side as these two.

[Le Rosbif]

You guys who said I was a moron, thick as pig tulip, bigoted twat.
I just realised you were right.
I must be if I seem to be on the same side as these two.

And I am the one beeing called "Cheese eating surrender monkey..."

[Churchill]

Isn't it forbidden to be a BNP member in the UK?
If not, it soon will be...

A MOURNER was ejected from Blackburn Cathedral then searched by police after church leaders thought he was a BNP troublemaker.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...ing_like_BNP_/

The BNP are a legitimate political party in this country. If people wish to support and/or vote for them then it is their right.

No it is not "forbidden" but quite what you mean by that I'm not sure.

[pzz76077]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-akx0...layer_embedded

Do you guys think it might also be necessary in the uk?

How about he gets deported to Iran. Anyone care to speculate on how much more bulltulip we would hear from him??

I have spent most of the last 25 years contracting around the world including most of the Islamic countires. The vast majority of these have welcomed me with open arms and I have been constantly surprised at how friendly these folk are given the (false) reputation built up in the media.

The last thing that we need is idiots like this guy fu*k*ng things up for everyone else IMV.

PZZ

[xoggoth]

I daresay they are friendly. Most people of any background are perfectly decent and are more concerned with living their own lives than ideology.

But by the same token the people of Iran or Saudi Arabia or Northern Nigeria or the Maldives must be jolly nice too and look what happens there. The general decency of most people has never been a defence against extreme ideology.

The link between belief and its followers is complex. The peaceful message of Christianity did not prevent it persecuting others for 1500 years and similarly people seem to find a way to interpret the true teachings of Islam in a more moderate way, for example, Pakistan had a female leader before any of us did in the West.

Nevertheless, it is foolish to ignore what an ideology is. Would you vote for a Marxist party who idolised Karl Marx just because they assured you they believed in free enterprise?

Read the Qu'ran, read the Haddiths and you will see that Saudi Arabia and Iran and the Taliban are the true Islam. Stoning adulterers, killing or digging up the graves of unbelievers who would not submit, telling women they had half the intelligence of women, cutting off hands and feet, those are all the sayings/teachings of their repulsive prophet.

Now try a bit of research on what actually goes on in Islamic countries, the persecution of those deemed heretic in Pakistan and Egypt for example. The recent treatment of the Egyptian Coptic Christians, did you miss that? There are ten countries that allow execution for homosexuality, geuss what, they are all Muslim. Even in so called moderate countries like Malaysia the family laws on child custody make non-Muslims second class citizens. Want to read your bible in Algeria? Better make sure it's written in one of the few permitted languages or you may end up in prison.

Most people who defend Islam appear not to have made the slightest effort to find out anything about it. Democracy is about the will of the people not the will of Allah and we want rational laws based on the needs of the current populace not the supposed teachings of a 6th century warlord.

If Islam is allowed to grow unchallenged it will spell the end of any hope for a secular society based on individual freedom and democracy. Wilders is right.

[pzz76077]

I daresay they are friendly. Most people of any background are perfectly decent and are more concerned with living their own lives than ideology.

But by the same token the people of Iran or Saudi Arabia or Northern Nigeria or the Maldives must be jolly nice too and look what happens there. The general decency of most people has never been a defence against extreme ideology.

The link between belief and its followers is complex. The peaceful message of Christianity did not prevent it persecuting others for 1500 years and similarly people seem to find a way to interpret the true teachings of Islam in a more moderate way, for example, Pakistan had a female leader before any of us did in the West.

Nevertheless, it is foolish to ignore what an ideology is. Would you vote for a Marxist party who idolised Karl Marx just because they assured you they believed in free enterprise?

Read the Qu'ran, read the Haddiths and you will see that Saudi Arabia and Iran and the Taliban are the true Islam. Stoning adulterers, killing or digging up the graves of unbelievers who would not submit, telling women they had half the intelligence of women, cutting off hands and feet, those are all the sayings/teachings of their repulsive prophet.

Now try a bit of research on what actually goes on in Islamic countries, the persecution of those deemed heretic in Pakistan and Egypt for example. The recent treatment of the Egyptian Coptic Christians, did you miss that? There are ten countries that allow execution for homosexuality, geuss what, they are all Muslim. Even in so called moderate countries like Malaysia the family laws on child custody make non-Muslims second class citizens. Want to read your bible in Algeria? Better make sure it's written in one of the few permitted languages or you may end up in prison.

Most people who defend Islam appear not to have made the slightest effort to find out anything about it. Democracy is about the will of the people not the will of Allah and we want rational laws based on the needs of the current populace not the supposed teachings of a 6th century warlord.

If Islam is allowed to grow unchallenged it will spell the end of any hope for a secular society based on individual freedom and democracy. Wilders is right.

You are talking absolute bollocks - I have studied the Qu'ran and other Islamic texts in Medina and my father was in the diplomatic corp in Egypt, Algeria and Jordan so this is where I spent most of my early life.
I have also live and worked in most of the countries you mention so have first hand experience on the ground.

Its idiots like you that perpetuate the groundless stereotypes that are abound amongst more the backward members of western society.

At the end of the day people are people all over the world and all ideologies being man made are only designed to enslave the masses for the benefit of the few.
Not sure how you moved so far off thread, but lets try to keep to the theme if we can.

PZZ

[Mich the Tester]

I daresay they are friendly. Most people of any background are perfectly decent and are more concerned with living their own lives than ideology.

But by the same token the people of Iran or Saudi Arabia or Northern Nigeria or the Maldives must be jolly nice too and look what happens there. The general decency of most people has never been a defence against extreme ideology.

The link between belief and its followers is complex. The peaceful message of Christianity did not prevent it persecuting others for 1500 years and similarly people seem to find a way to interpret the true teachings of Islam in a more moderate way, for example, Pakistan had a female leader before any of us did in the West.

Nevertheless, it is foolish to ignore what an ideology is. Would you vote for a Marxist party who idolised Karl Marx just because they assured you they believed in free enterprise?

Read the Qu'ran, read the Haddiths and you will see that Saudi Arabia and Iran and the Taliban are the true Islam. Stoning adulterers, killing or digging up the graves of unbelievers who would not submit, telling women they had half the intelligence of women, cutting off hands and feet, those are all the sayings/teachings of their repulsive prophet....

Wilders is right.

Wilders wants to ban the quran. That would make it rather difficult for us to educate ourselves about the teachings of Muhammed, however good or bad they may be.

[threaded]

Who is to say that the Islamification of Europe is not a good outcome?