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    #41
    Originally posted by expat View Post
    there is no reason why the King of the Scots should be a member of the Church of England!
    The next King of Scotland will be the current Prince Charles (assuming he manages to outlive her Ma'amness). As Defender of the Faith, I think membership of the C of E can be implied.
    Drivelling in TPD is not a mental health issue. We're just community blogging, that's all.

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      #42
      Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
      The next King of Scotland will be the current Prince Charles (assuming he manages to outlive her Ma'amness). As Defender of the Faith, I think membership of the C of E can be implied.
      That is exactly my point: the current rules impose a member (and indeed Defender) of the Church of England on the Scots, but there is no good reason why this should be so. Therefore one of the following should be adopted to correct this imposition:

      1. The monarch of the United Kingdom should not need to be C of E;
      or
      2. The United Kingdom should be dissolved.

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        #43
        Originally posted by expat View Post
        I try but I cannot find in this a refutation of the claim by Incognito that Catholicism is a religion of intolerance. All you are doing is condemning the anti-catholic intolerance, football-related or not, that is sadly widespread in the West of Scotland.

        In this I completely agree with you, but I'm am afraid that in what he says I agree with Incognito too. The Roman Catholic Church has spent more centuries burning people for apostasy and heresy, than radical Islam has spent cutting off heads for free thinking. If it does not do so any longer, it is because the Protestants have fought for the right to stay alive after disagreeing with the Catholic Church's doctrines.



        PS all faith schools, and in fact all "dissident" schools of any kind, as well as home-schooling, perform better than the average state school: I rather suspect that it is due to the high degree of commitment and involevment that it takes to do this, rather than any doctrinal superiority.
        I do not deny that the catholic Church has a few sins to tell when it gets itself to confession but the point I made about Darwin is relevant, the Protestant churches still insist that Darwin was wrong. The American Protestant churches openly insist this but the British ones simply refuse to answer the question as they know it will not make good press. Churchill obviously avoided that question/point for post after post.

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          #44
          Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
          The next King of Scotland will be the current Prince Charles (assuming he manages to outlive her Ma'amness). As Defender of the Faith, I think membership of the C of E can be implied.
          THE Prince of Wales, recently turned 60, is planning a symbolic change when he becomes king by taking the title Defender of Faith to reflect Britain's multicultural society.

          The move requires only a small grammatical change — dropping a "the" from the monarch's present title of Defender of the Faith.

          But it is high on symbolism because it would mean that the king, as supreme governor of the Church of England, would not be known as Defender of the Faith for the first time since the 16th century.

          The Prince, who was attending a concert and dinner in his honour at Buckingham Palace on Thursday night, caused controversy within the Anglican church when he floated the idea several years ago of becoming Defender of the Faiths in an attempt to embrace the other religions. In a compromise, he has opted for Defender of Faith, which he hopes will unite the different strands of society, and their beliefs, at his coronation.

          However, the change would require Parliament to agree to amend the 1953 Royal Titles Act, which came into law after changes were made for the Queen's coronation in the same year
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            #45
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            I do not deny that the catholic Church has a few sins to tell when it gets itself to confession but the point I made about Darwin is relevant, the Protestant churches still insist that Darwin was wrong. The American Protestant churches openly insist this but the British ones simply refuse to answer the question as they know it will not make good press. Churchill obviously avoided that question/point for post after post.
            Churchill may have avoided it, but the Churches have not. The Church of England in particular officially apologised to Darwin.

            Church of Scotland "Life and Work"
            Thank You Mr Darwin
            Graham Hellier argues that Christians have nothing to fear from evolution;
            Church of England apologises to Darwin

            Charles Darwin: 200 years from your birth, the Church of England owes you an apology for misunderstanding you and, by getting our first reaction wrong, encouraging others to misunderstand you still. We try to practice the old virtues of 'faith seeking understanding' and hope that makes some amends.

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              #46
              Originally posted by minestrone View Post
              I do not deny that the catholic Church has a few sins to tell when it gets itself to confession but the point I made about Darwin is relevant, the Protestant churches still insist that Darwin was wrong. The American Protestant churches openly insist this but the British ones simply refuse to answer the question as they know it will not make good press. Churchill obviously avoided that question/point for post after post.
              The purpose of my posts was to point out a certain lack of tolerance from your direction.

              I don't wish to discuss religion with anyone, it is between me and my God.

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                #47
                Originally posted by expat View Post
                one of the following should be adopted to correct this imposition:

                or
                2. The United Kingdom should be dissolved.
                I haven't thought hard enough about option 1, but I feel option 2 would be a terrible shame and one day, a terrible mistake.

                The Union was needed, and better than the alternative.

                It is better to join two feuding families with a marriage that to keep fighting.

                And just because some want to fight, that is no reason to force a divorce on those of us happy to be friends with the 'enemy'.
                Drivelling in TPD is not a mental health issue. We're just community blogging, that's all.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Churchill View Post
                  The purpose of my posts was to point out a certain lack of tolerance from your direction.

                  I don't wish to discuss religion with anyone, it is between me and my God.
                  I know you will not answer the question, I said that a few pages ago.

                  You obviously believe that the evolution of the species is wrong because you believe in the old testament as truth as you have stated.

                  I shall now take as fact you do not believe in Darwin's theories.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
                    I don't wish to discuss religion with anyone, it is between me and my God.
                    I agree.

                    Nevertheless I strongly encourage you to read "The God Delusion" and draw your own conclusions.

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                      #50
                      This is all wasted words.

                      There is no god.

                      You do not need a church to tell you what to think.

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