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Meta-study shows religious people are less intelligent

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    #41
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I’d say that on a scale of 1 for an absolute believer and 100 for an absolute atheist, I’m about 99.9.

    I don’t believe, and you’ll have one hell of a job persuading me, but I’d be a fool if I thought that I could ever be 100% certain about the nature of the universe.
    Heard of Pascal's wager?
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #42
      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
      Religious people (who've thought through their faith) would say they have plenty of evidence.
      If they thought through their evidence, rather than their faith, they would see they had none.
      Although it's possible that God only shows "itself" to people who believe in the first place.

      Anyone got any evidence for a supernatural being that hasn't been generated in their head?
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #43
        Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
        Heard of Pascal's wager?
        Yes, and I disagree with it.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #44
          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
          Heard of Pascal's wager?
          Yes. God, if he existed, would not take seriously anyone who "believed" because of "Pascal's wager" logic - basically hedging your bets.
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #45
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            Yes. God, if he existed, would not take seriously anyone who "believed" because of "Pascal's wager" logic - basically hedging your bets.
            If a god exists, he would quite possibly reward atheists. By questioning his existence and researching on the assumption that he doesn’t exist, they inevitably come closer to proving that he does exist, thereby rendering him (or her) a great service.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #46
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              It’s even possible that I’m god and I just don’t know it yet.
              I don't know a tester who doesn't believe he's God!

              Seriously though, you've stated that the odds are stacked against there being a God, and that is why you choose an atheistic line. Fine. No problem. Except that your calculation of the odds can only be based on things you see within the known, scientifically explained universe. You have no tools to measure beyond that. Therefore you only know the odds based on one point of view.

              As a comparison it is like a stable lad looking at the one-and-only horse in his stables, and giving odds on it winning the Grand National, when he cannot and does not know of the existence of any other stables.

              (And the race won't be run until he dies!)
              When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice - Ayn Rand, Atlas.

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                #47
                Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                Heard of Pascal's wager?
                Is a big cop out
                "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


                Thomas Jefferson

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  WTF were you looking for to find that?

                  And as to the question, well you couldn't call me religious, but I think that god may or may not exist.

                  Your thinking is flawed on the atheist thing - you don't KNOW, nobody does, so to proclaim yourself a pure atheist is an act of faith.
                  ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                    What caused god? What was there before?
                    I didn't mention god, now what was before the big bang? Where did all the mater come from? Was it really squeezed into infinitesimal point? The laws of physics break down when applied here.

                    Common sense tells us that things don’t just appear from nowhere.
                    Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
                      WTF were you looking for to find that?

                      And as to the question, well you couldn't call me religious, but I think that god may or may not exist.

                      Your thinking is flawed on the atheist thing - you don't KNOW, nobody does, so to proclaim yourself a pure atheist is an act of faith.
                      See previous answer to this
                      "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


                      Thomas Jefferson

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