Rate cut

[sasguru]

No problem with that AS LONG AS they see nothing wrong with me demanding a 20% rate increase mid-contract during a boom when their profits are good, without thinking for a minute that this is not a business like way to act.

I think you'll find your average client doesn't like it when the glove is on the other foot.

There is nothing wrong with demanding a 20% rise, even now, provided your added value justifies it. And if they have no choice they will pay it.
Simple supply and demand as I said.

[sasguru]

Michael Moore makes this point - funny how top managers get richer and everyone else gets shafted

Twas ever so. It's called survival of the fittest. Become a manager then and stop yer whinging.

[Moscow Mule]

Twas ever so. It's called survival of the fittest. Become a manager then and stop yer whinging.

Permie bastard.

[sasguru]

Permie bastard.

[AtW]

Hence most contractors are on less now that they were 10 yrs ago.

(Except SallyAnne for some reason)

CyberTory

[Mich the Tester]

Twas ever so. It's called survival of the fittest. Become a manager then and stop yer whinging.

The ‘fittest’!?!?!?! Are you claiming that the thieving scum who have driven many of the world’s biggest banks and manufacturers to the edge, and some over the edge of bankruptcy are ‘the fittest’?

Darwinian evolution is the wrong analogy; basic home economics is better; in a stew, scum rises to the top and needs to be skimmed off quickly to avoid giving the whole meal a bitter aftertaste. That’s the trouble; incompetent senior managers have been allowed to parasite businesses for too long and now we’re all left with the bitter aftertaste.

[sasguru]

That’s the trouble; incompetent senior managers have been allowed to parasite businesses for too long and now we’re all left with the bitter aftertaste.

I agree. But if all techies can do is moan about management because they lack the personal skills (which are much harder than techie ones) required to obtain power - then nothing will change.

[d000hg]

Michael Moore makes this point - funny how top managers get richer and everyone else gets shafted

Yes those poor contractors getting shafted, grossing only £100K per year. How will they survive Christmas... maybe we should set up a charity for them.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Twas ever so. It's called survival of the fittest. Become a manager then and stop yer whinging.

Survival of the most venal and cut throat more like. Anyway I wasn't whinging I think it's funny - especially when permies go on about survival of the fittest

[bobhope]

Yes those poor contractors getting shafted, grossing only £100K per year. How will they survive Christmas... maybe we should set up a charity for them.

What's good for the goose, etc.

We need our own bailout now!