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    #51
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Blame the Americans
    I'll tell you what. There's nothing that the Yanks can or will do. Read Pickle's posts above.
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #52
      Originally posted by Likely View Post
      The shield will stop just enough missiles to spread nuclear cloud over the EU. The poles will then realize their mistake ...

      Unfortuantelly the US will not come to help.... too high radiation hazard..
      wtf?
      Older and ...well, just older!!

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        #53
        [QUOTE=Pickle2;617301]
        Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

        But this is exactly the russian's argument. "We have to stop the west, it is in their nature to encroach further on russian infuence if we do nothing."

        Its strategic tit for tat.

        We arent going to go to war to try and prevent russia annexing a small chunk of land that is populated 90% by people who want to be russians anyway. Or that is at least the russian's gamble.



        So which countries have the West annexed ? If the USA had annexed Mexico I can understand your argument, but all democratic countries are independent and protected by international law. Russia is perfectly free to exert infuence on any countries near the USA if it is with the aim of friendship, trade etc. They have no right to annex them though.

        ... and how do you know that all of South Ossetians want to be part of Russia ? Their aim has always been independence from Georgia, in the same way that Scotland want to be independent from the UK.

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          #54
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          Thanks for the well known history.
          Try to answer your own question:
          What happens if the Russians do to Ukraine what they have done to Georgia?
          What would you suggest we do?


          Just let them have it, the same as we are letting them have Georgia !! Nobody wants war and who cares about little Ukranians. Let's only worry about it when they annex the UK.

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            #55
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            I'll tell you what. There's nothing that the Yanks can or will do. Read Pickle's posts above.
            In my view if Ukraine was invaded by Russia, then NATO would have to intervene militarily, which would mean Poland once again becoming the front for war between NATO and Russia. The US could not afford to ignore such an invasion. If the war escalated into a nuclear war then of course everyone would be involved.

            If Russia is allowed to get away with invding Ukraine then the next stop would be Poland, Kazakhstan and anywhere else that is of strategic or economic value to the Russians.

            If NATO defended an attack on Ukraine then it would most likely beat Russia.
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #56
              Are you listening Russia ? Just take whichever countries you like. Nobody wants to stop you.

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                #57
                If NATO defended an attack on Ukraine then it would most likely beat Russia.
                ow do you know that? and at what cost?

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                  #58
                  Are you listening Russia ? Just take whichever countries you like. Nobody wants to stop you.
                  just like america

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    In my view if Ukraine was invaded by Russia, then NATO would have to intervene militarily, which would mean Poland once again becoming the front for war between NATO and Russia. The US could not afford to ignore such an invasion. If the war escalated into a nuclear war then of course everyone would be involved.

                    If Russia is allowed to get away with invding Ukraine then the next stop would be Poland, Kazakhstan and anywhere else that is of strategic or economic value to the Russians.

                    If NATO defended an attack on Ukraine then it would most likely beat Russia.
                    The Ukraine will be the next major flashpoint between the West and Russia. Not only do you have the Nato membership in the balance, but the lease for the Sevastopol base is up in 2017 and I believe Russia isn't interested in giving it back.
                    "I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith

                    On them! On them! They fail!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by NetwkSupport View Post
                      just like america

                      You're nuts !!

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