A strong marriage policy IS the key !!

[Cyberman]

You appear to be equating black children with criminals. Are you sure that the BNP is not more suited to your beliefs?

Not intentionally, but the ACTUAL FACTS of knife murder in London is proof that blacks in the majority of cases are to blame, and it would appear that single parenthood is a factor. After a decade of political correctness it is now time to look for solutions without resort to, or being accused by apparent do-gooders such as yourself of racism.

[snaw]

I believe the evidence suggests that an unhappy family staying together is usually better for the kids than a "broken" one.

That's a tough one and I'm sure every situation is slightly different, but personally my parents getting divorced when I was young was in general a good thing. No father around, but a peaceful house was preferable to the open warfare/massive arguments I remembered as a kid when they were together. Can't see how that's good for anyone.

At the end of the day what matters is parents taking an interest, even if they're not together and instilling the right values etc in their kids, not just living under the same house.

[realityhack]

60% of black children have one parent families and surely this is real evidence of the crux of the problem with knife crime etc, with the inherent lack of family discipline and father figure.

You appear to be equating black children with criminals. Are you sure that the BNP is not more suited to your beliefs?

I don't think he was stating that at all. It is a fact that our young black males are more involved in knife and gun crime in our inner cities.
Operation Trident was set up specifically to target black youths and gun ownership, as it was and is such a problem. While I was working with the government, crime figures from our team showed that over 80% of all gun and knife crime in our area was perpetrated by black males between the ages of 14 and 19. These figures weren't published, because 'that minority group was over-represented', and it would have 'been seen to be a racist statement'.

If we are to address such problems in our country, we have to face facts, no matter how politically incorrect they are.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that CyberMan is actually an automated troll feeding off the combined output of the DailyMash and the Twat-o-Tron.

Good call, I was wondering if he could possibly be real.

[Pondlife]

At the end of the day what matters is parents taking an interest, even if they're not together and instilling the right values etc in their kids, not just living under the same house.

Excellent post. Sums it up for me.

[snaw]

Not intentionally, but the ACTUAL FACTS of knife murder in London is proof that blacks in the majority of cases are to blame, and it would appear that single parenthood is a factor. After a decade of political correctness it is now time to look for solutions without resort to, or being accused by apparent do-gooders such as yourself of racism.

Actually fact - it's been going on amongst white kids in Glasgow for decades, way before families started breaking up as they do these days. Socio economic, and cultural is mainly to blame imo. Unfortunately most single parent families are at the wrong end of the scale, so more likely to fall in these brackets - but being divorced in itself isn't the reason I reckon.

[VectraMan]

.. but single parent families are already at an advantage over marriage due to benefits they get that simply are not available to their more 'responsible' members of society. Why should marriage get a WORSE deal, as it does currently ???

Are you saying a family with say one parent working full time and one staying at home should get state handouts they don't need, so that they get the same as a single mother who has no choice not to work and so has no income?

Or are you saying that single mothers should be treated like any other unemployed person and have benefits taken away if they don't work, meaning they resort to crime just to feed the child? Is that better for the child?

The answer to all this is simple: sterilize everybody at puberty.

[EvilWeevil]

Good call, I was wondering if he could possibly be real.

Of course he could. Have you seen the Daily Wail's sales figures.

[Cyberman]

I believe the evidence suggests that an unhappy family staying together is usually better for the kids than a "broken" one. Reason is that being able to maintain a relationship between mum and dad as individuals, and having two adults who care about them involved in their lives on a day to day basis, outweighs the damage caused by mum and dad not liking each other much.

An exception to this would be, for example, if one of the parents turns into a spiteful, vindictive, raving nutter, who's more interested in harming their spouse than caring for the kids, á la ex-Mrs Brillopad,

I agree based on my experiences. No family is 100% happy all of the time and mine was not, but my brothers and sisters still had the strong moral framework in which to grow up in.
Breaking up of families should be an absolutely last resort. I would like to see the parent that leaves the family unit lose most of their entitlement to equity etc from a divorce action. That would be yet another incentive to stay together and make it work.

[VectraMan]

That's a tough one and I'm sure every situation is slightly different, but personally my parents getting divorced when I was young was in general a good thing. No father around, but a peaceful house was preferable to the open warfare/massive arguments I remembered as a kid when they were together. Can't see how that's good for anyone..

WHS. I was nearly 17, so I understood, but my younger brother took it a lot harder. But it was still better that my parents split up, and actually we both spent a lot more time with our father after he left than before, as he'd come to visit us. It's horrible for children when parents are arguing, and I'm not sure how you can ever say that extending that is a good thing.