Indian/Pakistani MCSEs

[Francko]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

In the sense that most of the time there is an inverse correlation.

[sasguru]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

Yes that seems to be pretty much the attitude. Which is why probably around 75% of large UK IT projects fail.

[TimberWolf]

Yes that seems to be pretty much the attitude. Which is why probably around 75% of large UK IT projects fail.

I wasn't referring to IT especially, managers in general are usually big blokes.

[Francko]

I earned my living as a coding contractor for more than 10 years which I would bet is more than you managed. Unlike you, however, I could also see the bigger picture and moved on from coding.

HTH

Unfortunately I did that too and I regret it. If only they offer more money for developer positions I would go back everyday. Well, cleaning up the mess of what you describe as an easy job kept my skills up-to-date so I am ready to jump anytime they will understand this big mistake.

[expat]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

At least in the UK, where management is seen as a status rather than an activity.

[Sausage Surprise]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

[Moscow Mule]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

There's an interesting thing about some Nigerian cultures, you are actually considered high social-status if you can get money/goods for doing nothing. Results in an warped (to our eyes) work ethic...

[ChimpMaster]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

You'd think that their initial email about wanting to transfer their client's $45m would be a giveaway.

[realityhack]

At least in the UK, where management is seen as a status rather than an activity.

Indeed.

[oracleslave]

Who said you have to work for an Indian company? I meant being the link man for the company doing the outsourcing. There is is a serious shortage of people who can do this successfully, in my experience.