Indian/Pakistani MCSEs

[sasguru]

Congratulations SAS after 5 years you have finally made your first visit to "sense corner"

I'll give you directions on how to get there if you like

[sasguru]

How do you do it? I'm sure most of the PMs here could do with a few lessons.

I don't. The secret is to have a very good Indian project manager who can speak the lingo in India and, crucially, has spent time (a few years) in both environments, the City and Bangalore. That guy is worth his weight in gold I can tell you - although I'm not about to tell him

The more open-minded project managers among you would do well to learn Hindi and have a stint of a year in Bangalore. You won't be out of work for a very long time.

[ChimpMaster]

The more open-minded project managers among you would do well to learn Hindi and have a stint of a year in Bangalore. You won't be out of work for a very long time.

The problem is that you might well get paid 100,000 Rupees a month (which is great for an Indian salary) but that only works out at £1,200 for us...

[Francko]

If you have a good project manager dedicated to managing the process, it can very successful. Coding is the easy part as usual. Any reasonably intelligent person can do it.

Unfortunately the last sentence excludes yourself.

[Francko]

Congratulations SAS after 5 years you have finally made your first visit to "sense corner"

Oh yeah, and he forgot to mention that you absolutely need a good agent. That's where the added value is in the all chain. Not the project managing. That's the easy part. Any reasonable intelligent people can do it. But finding a good agent. That brings his weight in gold.

[Ardesco]

Neither. It is a closely guarded secret.

Strange, you seem to have a very biased view against Pakistanis for no obvious reason.

My experience is that there are just as many Indians playing the system as there are Pakistanis, Africans, home grown white's, etc. The big advantage that many from countries like India/Pakistan have, is that they are used to dealing with corruption and know how to work with it to their advantage.

[sasguru]

Unfortunately the last sentence excludes yourself.

I earned my living as a coding contractor for more than 10 years which I would bet is more than you managed. Unlike you, however, I could also see the bigger picture and moved on from coding.

HTH

[Moscow Mule]

I earned my living as a coding contractor for more than 10 years which I would bet is more than you managed. Unlike you, however, I could also see the bigger picture and moved on from coding.

HTH

There's a lot of money to be made in coding something that was current 10 years ago.

[TimberWolf]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

[sasguru]

The problem is that you might well get paid 100,000 Rupees a month (which is great for an Indian salary) but that only works out at £1,200 for us...

Who said you have to work for an Indian company? I meant being the link man for the company doing the outsourcing. There is is a serious shortage of people who can do this successfully, in my experience.