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    10p tax fiasco

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7357085.stm

    This is a piss take. He wanted to scrap the 10p tax rate just so he could say "at 20p we have the lowest basic rate tax over the conservatives" now is worried becuase people have found out it was all a sham.

    #2
    Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7357085.stm

    This is a piss take. He wanted to scrap the 10p tax rate just so he could say "at 20p we have the lowest basic rate tax over the conservatives" now is worried becuase people have found out it was all a sham.
    scam

    I think this is bizzarre: they say most are better off with credits and allowances etc., and maybe that's true I don't know. But for NL who typify spin and presentation over substance to misjudge the reaction to this is amazing. Do they not get that people don't understand allowances and credits, and think the amount of tax they pay is only the headline rate of income tax?
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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      #3
      They should increase incentive and give low paid back some pride by having no tax up to at least 15k and get rid of all the tax credits and other costly to administer benefits.

      Instead there will be some incentive destroying fudge with more tax credits and/or a higher minimum wage that loads the costs onto business and indirectly taxes us all via higher prices.

      Any tax reduction that is not based on a reduction in cost of the state is a hollow sham.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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        #4
        Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
        They should increase incentive and give low paid back some pride by having no tax up to at least 15k and get rid of all the tax credits and other costly to administer benefits. .
        I agree. Personally I'd like to see no tax on up to minimum wage, and no CT for small business. The former would make low paid jobs more attractive to benefits scroungers, and the latter would encourage enterprise.

        (And if a few IT contractors are better off, that's a small price to pay).
        Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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          #5
          Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
          scam

          I think this is bizzarre: they say most are better off with credits and allowances etc., and maybe that's true I don't know. But for NL who typify spin and presentation over substance to misjudge the reaction to this is amazing. Do they not get that people don't understand allowances and credits, and think the amount of tax they pay is only the headline rate of income tax?
          It's not true because they will lose 7billion of revenue if they reverse it.
          The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

          But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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            #6
            Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7357085.stm

            This is a piss take. He wanted to scrap the 10p tax rate just so he could say "at 20p we have the lowest basic rate tax over the conservatives" now is worried becuase people have found out it was all a sham.



            I strongly believe the reason that he did it was to catch out contractors paying themselves low salaries. Remember also that he increased small companies' corporation tax at the same time as announcing this measure.

            His vindictiveness is now coming back to 'bite' him.

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              #7
              This is really going to hurt Liebour because it's really going to hurt the lowest paid. The ladies who work at my B&B have seen a pay cut - the owner isn't interested in giving a pay-rise to cover the government's cock-up.

              I'm not going to mention the comment from Darling about tax credits as I think she'd punch me...
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #8
                Originally posted by cojak View Post
                This is really going to hurt Liebour because it's really going to hurt the lowest paid. The ladies who work at my B&B have seen a pay cut - the owner isn't interested in giving a pay-rise to cover the government's cock-up.

                I'm not going to mention the comment from Darling about tax credits as I think she'd punch me...
                Liebour, I like it.

                But perhaps LieBore is more appropriate for Gordo?

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                  #9
                  Dunno about catching contractors out. but GB always was a sneaky taxman. Take a look at the dividend tax credit.. I wondering how I can establish my company abroad - like the Isle of Man - and still work on contracts here.
                  McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                  Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cojak View Post
                    This is really going to hurt Liebour because it's really going to hurt the lowest paid.
                    Too right. I'm "only" on £12k a year and I'll certainly be worse off what with a 76L tax code also. I'm furious.

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