RBS/Halifax

[barry_abs]

but we are tolerant, our history has depended on it.

can you give me an example where our history has depended on tolerance? (not taking the tulip, genuinely want to know)

i know we have had many tolerant administrations in our history so must be plenty of examples (but what politicians say in public and what actually happens doesn't always map).. obviously, invading and subsequently controlling one quarter of the globe is not a great example of tolerance.

your point about the muslim attitude reinforces what i think - they are intolerant (don't want to change for us) and so are we (don't want them unless they change for us).

[tay]

i'd love to get amongst it in the middle east, yeah i'd follow their rules.. only then would i feel equipped to judge them

Doesnt seem like they are very tolerant.... making you change.

[tay]

can you give me an example where our history has depended on tolerance?

Can a Muslim girl wear her traditional garment in Oxford St? Can a western girl were a bikini in the main street of Tehran?

[SandyDown]

So our education system is OK then? You are happy to avail yourself of that. Why didn't you leave before, was it OK in the UK when they started school? If so what has caused the decline (in your opinion)?

My kids go to private school
Not the education system that's keeping me, kids at this age can't live without their friends/ b/f or g/f

[tay]

kids at this age can't live without their friends/ b/f or g/f

Hyperbole alert!!

[The Lone Gunman]

can you give me an example where our history has depended on tolerance? (not taking the tulip, genuinely want to know)

i know we have had many tolerant administrations in our history so must be plenty of examples (but what politicians say in public and what actually happens doesn't always map).. obviously, invading and subsequently controlling one quarter of the globe is not a great example of tolerance.

your point about the muslim attitude reinforces what i think - they are intolerant (don't want to change for us) and so are we (don't want them unless they change for us).

Take too long to answer all this. We didnt invade 3/4 of the known world we colonised it and there is a big difference. We imported peoples and cultures from those colonies too.
Ancient wars were a product of their time, not necessarily the people.
Any number of outsiders have settled the UK, some have even invaded it and held it by force till the natives calmed down.
Vikings, Normans even those damned Picts.

Missed a bit.
We don't want Muslims to change anymore than we would expect any migrant to change. It is not a tolerance thing, there is an expected standard of behaviour when entering any other community.

[The Lone Gunman]

My kids go to private school
Not the education system that's keeping me, kids at this age can't live without their friends/ b/f or g/f

Sorry Sandy, now you are making excuses. Whenever they leave they will have to leave their friends.

[tay]

Maybe she is just concerned that her daughter will get raped and when unable to provide 2 witnesses.. he will get off.. and she will be executed?

Fair enough really... its a pretty rubbish situation.

[SandyDown]

Sorry Sandy, now you are making excuses. Whenever they leave they will have to leave their friends.

Oh yeh... why haven't I thought of this - perhaps you convince them of this yourself.... now you know when I say people who have no kids just have no idea

[The Lone Gunman]

Oh yeh... why haven't I thought of this - perhaps you convince them of this yourself.... now you know when I say people who have no kids just have no idea

excuses.
If the UK is as bad as you say then why are you willing to inflict it on your kids. Surely if you care about them you would not want them exposed to such a degenerate and dangerous society.