Gangs and justice?

[Troll]

I see they have now charged 3 with murder & I expect it will be downgraded to manslaughter before coming to trial and all the media attention has shifted to the next outrage.

[daviejones]

Let's start by looking at who does it, then maybe we can understand why, and know how to stop it.

Let's start by not being mealy-mouthed about naming the racial characteristics of the thugs. That way, if we begin to notice, for example that the overwhelming majority of muggings, knifings, shootings, fatal beatings, etc, are committed by white Europeans, then we will know that it would be no use to advocate restricting immigration by race in order to cut violent crime.

I would not go so far as to say that the majority were white Europeans however.....

[Euro-commuter]

Just looking at the news about the guy that confronted vandals recently and ended up dead. Where did this disregard for human life come from? I don't remember this when I was a kid...fair enough we had fights but never really 6 on 1!!!

How do we put an end to this? Some people will say through "hug a hoodie", some will say education and others will say justice. What is the general concensus? How do we tackle this?

Allow people to carry guns. The thugs carry knives, and in any case don't need to if they are prepared to kick a man to death. 6 violent teenage men can kill a middle-aged person without too much trouble.

Give that 1 man, or woman, a gun and you take away the thugs' confidence that they can kill with impunity.

[Euro-commuter]

Let's start by looking at who does it, then maybe we can understand why, and know how to stop it.

Let's start by not being mealy-mouthed about naming the racial characteristics of the thugs. That way, if we begin to notice, for example that the overwhelming majority of muggings, knifings, shootings, fatal beatings, etc, are committed by white Europeans, then we will know that it would be no use to advocate restricting immigration by race in order to cut violent crime.

Why didn't you say, if committed by blacks? Ah, that would be racist.

[richard-af]

Send them on a nice safari, to teach them "values". Then maybe a restorative trip to Disneyland, to show them love & harmony in action. Then spend thousands on counselling them - naturally. Then dip further into the Public purse to secure a final 2-week skiing trip somewhere nice-n-expensive, after all, being a vicious, worthless, empty c@nt can be quite exhausting.

Or, lock 'em up for life - i.e. until dead, so we're all a bit safer.

Hmmmm... tricky choice.

[DimPrawn]

Send them on a nice safari, to teach them "values". Then maybe a restorative trip to Disneyland, to show them love & harmony in action. Then spend thousands on counselling them - naturally. Then dip further into the Public purse to secure a final 2-week skiing trip somewhere nice-n-expensive, after all, being a vicious, worthless, empty c@nt can be quite exhausting.

Or, lock 'em up for life - i.e. until dead, so we're all a bit safer.

Hmmmm... tricky choice.

I see you have compared the New Labour manifesto with the Conservative one then?

[richard-af]

I see you have compared the New Labour manifesto with the Conservative one then?

Well, I class myself as a Moderate. But letting vicious sociopaths roam free is mad, no matter which part of the political spectrum one believes in.

[OrangeHopper]

Many teenagers no longer fear their parents and hence adults as general.

[TheFaQQer]

Nail 'em up I say!

But then, some say that crucifixion is a doddle...

[ChimpMaster]

A Canadian mate of mine is working in Dubai, where he has been for the past 4 years or so. He says they have virtually ZERO crime there. The 2 main reasons for this are (a) In terms of immigration, only workers/professionals/business people are allowed to enter/remain in the country, and (b) there are very severe punishments for crime.

I for one agree with the harsh punishments given out in these countries as it really does deter crime.

He also mentioned that schools there have 2 teachers in a class of 8 pupils. He was shocked to hear the state of our nation, including that there is barely 1 teacher per 30 pupils in our classrooms.

What the **** has gone wrong with this pile of manure we live on?