Glasgow Bombers...

[Old Greg]

How about: The Koran tells them they MUST leave. They are required to not live amongst those who would harm them or would disparage Islam.
Ergo: If they say the West is the enemy they should pack their bags and fook off.

Or are they not quite that commited to Islam? In which case they are as damned as the rest of us and might as well give up.

Yeah and the bible tells us we must put to death anyone who wear a cotton polyester blended garment (or something like that). Religion's just a bit crazy and it's best not to pick out individual bits in isolation to other bits as there are always contradictions.

[Causus Deli]

But what to do with our underclass? How can they learn pride and understand their historic destiny. Where will they find the leadership?

They need to be given a chance, just to apply our standards (and discard) to these uneducated people is crass stupidity. Stop their dough if they don't work for it, if it ain't worth working make it worth it. More and more belligerents are imported because 'we need them' - bollox like a hole in the head, who needs them to sell sandwiches and pull pints, we have our own people - pay them to do it not sit on their arses? No more students, no more imams, no more grannies, no more relatives, no more asylum seekers - WE DON'T NEED THEM. We have a problem, action is required.

[Clippy]

No, no, no - there is no Jewish media conspiracy. Any more than the propaganda that Jews got a secret phone call not to turn up to work on the morning of 9/11.

I didn't say there was a conspiracy Greg but it's no coincidence that the mainstream media supports/pushes a similar view and you can't overlook the fact that most of the worlds media/entertainment industries are dominated in the higher echelons by Jews who, on the whole, are pro-Israel.

[shaunbhoy]

Yeah and the bible tells us we must put to death anyone who wear a cotton polyester blended garment (or something like that). Religion's just a bit crazy and it's best not to pick out individual bits in isolation to other bits as there are always contradictions.

Really? Polyester?

[lilelvis2000]

Yeah and the bible tells us we must put to death anyone who wear a cotton polyester blended garment (or something like that). Religion's just a bit crazy and it's best not to pick out individual bits in isolation to other bits as there are always contradictions.

That's quite a modern version you've got there.

[Causus Deli]

[QUOTE=shaunbhoy]

Morbid curiosity?

Oh poor you, you surely don't need me to forbode of death and destruction, and terrible plague - at least! Just watch the news.

[lilelvis2000]

How about: The Koran tells them they MUST leave. They are required to not live amongst those who would harm them or would disparage Islam.
Ergo: If they say the West is the enemy they should pack their bags and fook off.

Or are they not quite that commited to Islam? In which case they are as damned as the rest of us and might as well give up.

The UK is hardly a place where muslims are persecuted. Perhaps the gun happy Police are persecuting them, but then they use their silly powers just because they can.

[shaunbhoy]

[QUOTE=Causus Deli]

you surely don't need me to forbode of death and destruction, and terrible plague

That's right, we don't. So button it knucklehead, we are all stocked out with idiots on here already.

[Old Greg]

Really? Polyester?

Not specifically polyester. I forget the exxact details but it's something about mixing threads of different types in a garment. Don't have my fingers on the exact quote, but Leviticus and Deuteronomy are full of this kind of weird stuff.

[The Lone Gunman]

Yeah and the bible tells us we must put to death anyone who wear a cotton polyester blended garment (or something like that). Religion's just a bit crazy and it's best not to pick out individual bits in isolation to other bits as there are always contradictions.

I would agree with that except that Muslims believe the Koran is the word of God as spoken by the angel Gabriel to the prophet Mohammed (pbuh). As such it is infallible and they must obey every word. The contradictions can be ironed out due the the order of the revelations, later passages taking precedence over older ones.
All Muslims believe this (they have to or they are not Muslims) and will do whatever the Koran tells them. It then depends which Imam is currently in favour as to what soem of the less clear chapters mean, particularly as they were written in a different time.

You can not ignore the Koran (or the hadith) when you are talking about Islam and Muslims and you can not treat its sayings as metaphorical.