OK so now I need a new 4x4

[milanbenes]

oh this subject Comrade,

we will have to agree to disagree

your family's safety or somebody else's ?

Milan.

[Numptycorner]

Oh the "I’m all right jack" mentality, what about everyone else who has to put up with a lower survival chance if they come into contact with one? Personally I could afford one if I want but I have a social conscience and feel they are unnecessary for a vast majority of the people who buy them, I don’t dislike them because they guzzle gas it’s more that our roads were never designed to accommodate them, they are a danger to other road users and pedestrians.

I only have a problem with a minority of people who think they can use them to bully people out of the way.

[Ardesco]

Not really a classic 4x4 but i belive Audi do a 4WD Q7 which has all the seats you need + all mod cons and a reasonably hgh driving position.


Probably going to be looking at one myself in the next couple of years if the need for a 3rd car seat becomes apparent....

[milanbenes]

Ardesco,

you must be rich !

Milan.

[Ardesco]

Nope, just getting myself into piles and piles of debt before I emmigrate :P

[n5gooner]

Not really a classic 4x4 but i belive Audi do a 4WD Q7 which has all the seats you need + all mod cons and a reasonably hgh driving position.


Probably going to be looking at one myself in the next couple of years if the need for a 3rd car seat becomes apparent....

just had a look on Autotrader, guess what the cheapest is 38k !!!

[portseven]

Stop messing about and get a Defender!!

Anything else is a compromise! They have the best off-road ability, are infinetly upgradeable and keep their value for ages!

A nice 110 CWS TD5, maybe 2003. Or you can go for a TDi300, that way you don't get all the electronic tulipe, and you can do some work on it without having to get a LR garage to plug a computer in.

[Zorba]

Another anti 4x4 point:
Chance of a pedestrian surviving an impact with a 4x4 compared to a saloon car is significantly lower.

So, if you must buy one, don't drive like a c&nt.

Whilst I'd agree on the pedestrian survival side of things, I would state that not driving a 4x4 does not immediately allow you to drive like a 'c&nt'. Worth stating for the hard of thinking out there - a Saxo doing 50mph is at least as likely to kill you as a 4x4 doing 35mph.

In fact, I'd say the common factor is people who drive like c&nts.

[ASB]

the only problem is its a Jap car....but still its worth considering, what are the rear seats like ?

Ok. The extra two fold away reasonably well when not in use, easy enough to put up and down. Legrooms a bit limited but I've been right in the back without too may problems.

The extra seat do help somewhat. Trips out with 2 kids often involve a freind for each of them, so we don't have to take 2 vehicles.

[Troll]

Stop messing about and get a Defender!!

Anything else is a compromise! They have the best off-road ability, are infinetly upgradeable and keep their value for ages!

A nice 110 CWS TD5, maybe 2003. Or you can go for a TDi300, that way you don't get all the electronic tulipe, and you can do some work on it without having to get a LR garage to plug a computer in.

Lots of street cred in a Defender but oh so cramped if you are over 5' 1"