OK so now I need a new 4x4

[n5gooner]

Maybe not:

http://tinyurl.com/2w9tz2

mmm well done.... I'll add it to my list for consideration....

[Moscow Mule]

I have to say, to the anti 4x4 brigade, it's like anything in life, if you cannot afford it then it's tough, if you can't afford 1st class safety then get a better job

as has been mentioned before it's the majority of saloon cars that should be made greener, not simply the easy way out picking on the small percentage of 4x4's

Another anti 4x4 point:
Chance of a pedestrian surviving an impact with a 4x4 compared to a saloon car is significantly lower.

So, if you must buy one, don't drive like a c&nt.

[n5gooner]

Another anti 4x4 point:
Chance of a pedestrian surviving an impact with a 4x4 compared to a saloon car is significantly lower.

So, if you must buy one, don't drive like a c&nt.

yes mum

[ASB]

Thought about a landcruiser ??

I've had a 98 td for the last 6 years. Gets a hard life, tows a lot, across my fields etc. No real bothers - did have a clutch at 140k though.

Reasonably civilised on the road too. Personally I found it loads better than a shogun which I just didn't like.

[n5gooner]

Thought about a landcruiser ??

I've had a 98 td for the last 6 years. Gets a hard life, tows a lot, across my fields etc. No real bothers - did have a clutch at 140k though.

Reasonably civilised on the road too. Personally I found it loads better than a shogun which I just didn't like.

the only problem is its a Jap car....but still its worth considering, what are the rear seats like ?

[milanbenes]

you dirty bugger, at your age !

Milan.

[n5gooner]

you dirty bugger, at your age !

Milan.

well you know, with the Discos rear seats folder up and the middle ones folded fowards, there is a lot of rolling space....

[Numptycorner]

the only problem is its a Jap car....but still its worth considering, what are the rear seats like ?

Why is that a problem? the finish will be as good as anything german but with better reliabilty.

[Troll]

Thought about a landcruiser ??

I've had a 98 td for the last 6 years. Gets a hard life, tows a lot, across my fields etc. No real bothers - did have a clutch at 140k though.

Reasonably civilised on the road too. Personally I found it loads better than a shogun which I just didn't like.

The latest version of the Land Cruiser looks too effeminate... but a good car underneath

[gingerjedi]

I don't care what anybody says about the selfishness of 4x4's, nobody can deny the higher driving position is safer than a saloon car, having owned a 4x4 skoda for the last 3 years everytime it rains I see the benefit of the grip from the 4x4, no wheel spinning at traffic lights, and not to mention the safety in winter time, I've climbed steep snowy hills on summer tyres with the 4x4

I have to say, to the anti 4x4 brigade, it's like anything in life, if you cannot afford it then it's tough, if you can't afford 1st class safety then get a better job

as has been mentioned before it's the majority of saloon cars that should be made greener, not simply the easy way out picking on the small percentage of 4x4's

Milan.

Oh the "I’m all right jack" mentality, what about everyone else who has to put up with a lower survival chance if they come into contact with one? Personally I could afford one if I want but I have a social conscience and feel they are unnecessary for a vast majority of the people who buy them, I don’t dislike them because they guzzle gas it’s more that our roads were never designed to accommodate them, they are a danger to other road users and pedestrians.