Would you ever vote BNP

[The Lone Gunman]

You've obviously left your sarcasm detector at home today.

The point remains though that the BNP are currently a minority albeit a growing one. Same as some other groups that can be mentioned. Given that the majority hate the idea of the BNP just as much as the BNP hates the idea of the current migrants, what's to stop the forced expulsion of BNP members from this country? After all, it's effectively the same argument - damaging the country, causing divides in the community etc etc.

Sorry Bob, all filters are off today. It is hard work defending this one.

[Rantor]

That's about right, and they'll get a lot of votes on the back of that.

Uncontrolled immigration is a common complaint in all western countries and it has always been as long as I can remember.

The economic and basic human imperative to improve your circumstances is too strong.

If there is an issue surely it is a global problem brought about by increased mobility, globalisation, demographic changes (at both ends of the chain), political instability etc.

These might well be real issues but the response across the 'civilised' world makes me despair. Right-wing nationalism equates not to restoring things to an ideal situation but rather a reversion to barbarism.

At best it is a failure of human imagination to do soemthing positive and at worst we will well and truly p*ss on our chips for good.

[DodgyAgent]

Uncontrolled immigration is a common complaint in all western countries and it has always been as long as I can remember.

The economic and basic human imperative to improve your circumstances is too strong.

If there is an issue surely it is a global problem brought about by increased mobility, globalisation, demographic changes (at both ends of the chain), political instability etc.

These might well be real issues but the response across the 'civilised' world makes me despair. Right-wing nationalism equates not to restoring things to an ideal situation but rather a reversion to barbarism.

At best it is a failure of human imagination to do soemthing positive and at worst we will well and truly p*ss on our chips for good.

So you think that countries should have uncontrolled immigration?

[Rantor]

So you think that countries should have uncontrolled immigration?

Nope, not at all - I never said that.

I do think we need a more coherent and less self-destructive reaction to immigration than that offered by variious brands of reactionary nationalism.

[DodgyAgent]

Nope, not at all - I never said that.

I do think we need a more coherent and less self-destructive reaction to immigration than that offered by variious brands of reactionary nationalism.

Unless immigration is managed and controlled properly then I am afraid that "reactionary nationalism" is what you are going to get. The UK belongs to its citizens remember.

[lilelvis2000]

We are discussing the merits of the BNP manifesto here, not your imagined reality. I think they explain their funding policy in ther bumf. Now where did you find the bit about all white?

Their funding policy seems to be simply removing Britian from the EU and cutting off all foriegn aid. They would need to remove themselves from the EU and repeal the human rights act to accomplish some of thier stated goals. They actually say a lot of funny stuff in thier manifesto. Like bulldozing all high-rises and partly blaming builders for encouraging immigration. The BNP also will curb imports, which I would imagine raise the prices of many goods. Also, has anyone ever had trouble speaking with a foreign doctor. I for one never have. They mention that economic migrants (skilled migrants?) will not be allowed social housing. Under current rules they are not allowed ANY form of subsidy - council tax benefit, job seekers, working tax credit, etc.

Most of their policies seem pretty pie-in-the sky. Some could be cut and pasted from other parties web sites. Some are based on flat out lies. And the rest based on - shall we say - cultural bias.

I could not find any mention of specific numbers on the voluntary repatriation programme. sorry - I still say its a kit kat.

Throughout you find references to "our own people", "the indigenous population", one can replace these with "white".

[Board Game Geek]

I hope, and it won't be long, when someone says "I'm voting labour" it will be seen in the same way as LG's admission of voting for the BNP.

Because, Labour have actually been in power and look what a mess this country is in now. The BNP haven't been in power. Judge the BNP if and when they get in power...not before.

What does it mean to vote Labour in the next election ?

1. You endorse the senseless war in Iraq and the daily loss of live on all sides.
2. You don't mind about the Cash for Honours and dodgy deals
3. You are happy to sleepwalk in to a Police State with the ever-growing number of CCTV's, Speed Cameras, new fines for trival misdemeanours
4. You don't mind the population of this country swelling to breaking point, to the extent that our domestic services cannot cope with the demand.
5. You don't care that there are no jobs for domestic nationals (regardless of colour or creed), because there are plenty of immigrants who will do it cheaper.

If you are thinking of voting Labour in the next election, then I don't know how you can sleep comfortably in your bed at night, knowing the above (and that's not an exhaustive list).

If you want more of the same, then sure, vote Labour. But not in my name.

As far as the BNP go...they've never been in power so I cannot comment on their political effectiveness. I've read their Manifesto, along with several other parties, and concluded Manifestos are pointless. It's what they do in power that counts, not what they say they are going to do.

Which, essentially means, that voting for a politcal party is a bit like a game of Russian Roulette.

Except that after continually blowing our brains out during the last 3 Elections, I think we need a change.

[Rantor]

Unless immigration is managed and controlled properly then I am afraid that "reactionary nationalism" is what you are going to get.

True enough, but allowing nationalism to become the fallback management technique is not going to do us much good in the long run.

The UK belongs to its citizens remember.

An interesting concept and presumably you mean that on some metaphorical level, cause they sure as hell don't own the deeds any more! Anyway, sounds like goddam communism to me!

[Troll]

Their funding policy seems to be simply removing Britian from the EU

and cutting off all foriegn aid.

They would need to remove themselves from the EU

and repeal the human rights act to accomplish some of thier stated goals.

make it happen!

They mention that economic migrants (skilled migrants?) will not be allowed social housing. Under current rules they are not allowed ANY form of subsidy - council tax benefit, job seekers, working tax credit, etc.
".

Do you mean re-branding the migrants who stormed the Channel Tunnel as "skilled" in order to create an illusion of control, most were unskilled and as such what was the point of allowing them in?...other than to drive down labour costs?

[Bagpuss]

Lonegunman, how does this fit in with your gay fairy tales?

He says the BNP's policy on homosexuality is no longer to recriminalise it, but instead to extend Clause 28 to encompass, among other things, the media. 'There's plenty of people making soap operas that present homosexuality as a wonderful lifestyle,' he explains, 'which as a matter of fact it very often isn't. But plenty of people promoting it are heterosexual. So if you fined or even imprisoned a BBC filmmaker for breaching those laws, then it's not persecuting a homosexual necessarily, it's persecuting someone for breaking those laws.'


must be getting the BNP wrong, the below didn't happen right? (you aint seen nuffink)

NICK GRIFFIN(Party Leader)
Convicted for inciting racial hatred

TONY LECOMBER(Group Development Officer)
Has a total of 12 convictions. Sentenced to 3yrs imprisonment for possession of home-made hand-grenades and electronic timing devices. Sentenced to another 3yrs imprisonment for unlawful wounding.

JOHN TYNDALL (founder of the BNP),6 convictions. Jailed for organising a paramilitary organisation. Jailed for possession of a loaded gun.

ROBERT BENNETT (BNP election organiser in Oldham and Burnley) Convicted for his part in a terrifying gang rape. sentenced to 5yrs in prison.

THE SOHO NAILBOMBER was a BNP member.