Would you ever vote BNP

[lilelvis2000]

make it happen!

Do you mean re-branding the migrants who stormed the Channel Tunnel as "skilled" in order to create an illusion of control, most were unskilled and as such what was the point of allowing them in?...other than to drive down labour costs?

I wasn't sure what the BNP meant by economic migrants..Clearly the people who come through the tunnel are illegals - who have no rights to anything. Unless they claim asylum - the BNP state they will keep asylum seekers in secure centres (compounds) a'la Oz.

We in IT will be the first ones to keep out foreign IT! But it isn't working is it. (Not enough lobbying and too much cash for honours.)

[DodgyAgent]

True enough, but allowing nationalism to become the fallback management technique is not going to do us much good in the long run.


An interesting concept and presumably you mean that on some metaphorical level, cause they sure as hell don't own the deeds any more! Anyway, sounds like goddam communism to me!

If you check your history what I am saying is what actually happens when things go wrong. So the governments decision to do effectively nothing to control immigration will lead to a nationalist backlash (as it is already doing).

if you are trying to split hairs over foreign ownership of UK assets then fine, but it is for the British people to decide who is allowed to enter our country, and unless the elected elite get it right (like everything else) then parties like BNP will become powerful as did the Nazis in the 1930s.

[SallyAnne]

I hope, and it won't be long, when someone says "I'm voting labour" it will be seen in the same way as LG's admission of voting for the BNP.

Because, Labour have actually been in power and look what a mess this country is in now. The BNP haven't been in power. Judge the BNP if and when they get in power...not before.

What does it mean to vote Labour in the next election ?

1. You endorse the senseless war in Iraq and the daily loss of live on all sides.
2. You don't mind about the Cash for Honours and dodgy deals
3. You are happy to sleepwalk in to a Police State with the ever-growing number of CCTV's, Speed Cameras, new fines for trival misdemeanours
4. You don't mind the population of this country swelling to breaking point, to the extent that our domestic services cannot cope with the demand.
5. You don't care that there are no jobs for domestic nationals (regardless of colour or creed), because there are plenty of immigrants who will do it cheaper.

If you are thinking of voting Labour in the next election, then I don't know how you can sleep comfortably in your bed at night, knowing the above (and that's not an exhaustive list).

If you want more of the same, then sure, vote Labour. But not in my name.

As far as the BNP go...they've never been in power so I cannot comment on their political effectiveness. I've read their Manifesto, along with several other parties, and concluded Manifestos are pointless. It's what they do in power that counts, not what they say they are going to do.

Which, essentially means, that voting for a politcal party is a bit like a game of Russian Roulette.

Except that after continually blowing our brains out during the last 3 Elections, I think we need a change.

Good post.

[Bagpuss]

Who would you rather bump into down a dark alley? A liar or a thug?

[SallyAnne]

Who would you rather bump into down a dark alley? A liar or a thug?

Depends which one was hotter Possibly both if it was a Saturday night

[Bagpuss]

You have reached the End of the Argument>

[SallyAnne]

You have reached the End of the Argument>

Sorry

[The Lone Gunman]

Lonegunman, how does this fit in with your gay fairy tales?

He says the BNP's policy on homosexuality is no longer to recriminalise it, but instead to extend Clause 28 to encompass, among other things, the media. 'There's plenty of people making soap operas that present homosexuality as a wonderful lifestyle,' he explains, 'which as a matter of fact it very often isn't. But plenty of people promoting it are heterosexual. So if you fined or even imprisoned a BBC filmmaker for breaching those laws, then it's not persecuting a homosexual necessarily, it's persecuting someone for breaking those laws.'

There is a difference between "actively promoting a homosexual life style and recognising that homosexuals exist. Something that I and others pointed out during our recent debate. I suspect the BNP would hold with your view on the subject though. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them does it.

must be getting the BNP wrong, the below didn't happen right? (you aint seen nuffink)

NICK GRIFFIN(Party Leader)
Convicted for inciting racial hatred

TONY LECOMBER(Group Development Officer)
Has a total of 12 convictions. Sentenced to 3yrs imprisonment for possession of home-made hand-grenades and electronic timing devices. Sentenced to another 3yrs imprisonment for unlawful wounding.

JOHN TYNDALL (founder of the BNP),6 convictions. Jailed for organising a paramilitary organisation. Jailed for possession of a loaded gun.

ROBERT BENNETT (BNP election organiser in Oldham and Burnley) Convicted for his part in a terrifying gang rape. sentenced to 5yrs in prison.

THE SOHO NAILBOMBER was a BNP member.

As I said before, the BNP has its share of nutters, some have recently come to light, some claim to have changed their ways.
How do you know there are not similar skeletons in other parties cupboards?
The BNP still has lots of ex National Front members and probably will have for all time. The BNP says it has changed from the old NF days, much like NL is vastly different from Labour, but there are still lots of hard and fast Labourites in there.

I never said I think the BNP is perfect, it isn't, but it is offering a more and more acceptable policies.
I suspect it will lose some of its more extreme policies if ever it gains any power.

[snaw]

Bottom line with the BNP for me is that no matter how they dress themselves up and try to put on an acceptable public face, essentially it's an organisation which judges people based on their color, race and religion.

The factors which drive people to them may well be valid (Debatable but I can understand it), and every country has it's right wing nationalistic extremists but for me they're in the same bracket as Islamic extremists, Christian fundamentalists, animal rights activists, socialist workers etc etc. Oxygen theives in other words.

People chat about leaving the country but the day they get in power I would honestly leave. But I got faith in the British public so no tickets booked yet.

[Bagpuss]

There is a difference between "actively promoting a homosexual life style and recognising that homosexuals exist. Something that I and others pointed out during our recent debate. I suspect the BNP would hold with your view on the subject though. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them does it.


As I said before, the BNP has its share of nutters, some have recently come to light, some claim to have changed their ways.
How do you know there are not similar skeletons in other parties cupboards?
The BNP still has lots of ex National Front members and probably will have for all time. The BNP says it has changed from the old NF days, much like NL is vastly different from Labour, but there are still lots of hard and fast Labourites in there.

I never said I think the BNP is perfect, it isn't, but it is offering a more and more acceptable policies.
I suspect it will lose some of its more extreme policies if ever it gains any power.

I fail to see how any rational person could think of voting for them. Yes they promise things that sound good, but so do DFS.

Just look at their support base, largely uneducated, easily led, middle-aged bigots. Why would anyone want to align with them unless they were one too?