Sensible attitude to drug?

[snaw]

Tell you what Bagpuss, bang on about the negative effects of too much alcohol for a while and see where that gets you.

Personally I made my choices in the full knowledge that it might well be bad for me, but feck me it was fun at the time. Same as I do if I think about the negative affects of the beer I'll probably have on the weekend, or the birthday treats that appear on someones desk every week or ...

[SallyAnne]

a/ You don't seem to care about the negative effects, infact you just dismiss them even so much as disputing the existence. Just have a look in any medical text, it's not conjecture. They have been around long enough for people to understand the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics

b/ You'd encourage your relatives to take them

yeah but I grew up in an environment where we were all encouraged to drink, so I'm just comparing it to that.
OK, in an ideal world no one would take any form of "drugs", but I'm not so hypacritical that I say "ooh dont do drugs, but knock yourself out at the offlicense, and pick me up 20 fags while you're there".
People are always going to do "bad things" - I've just tried them all and made (what I would call) an informed decision on which ones are better/safer than others.

And I'm not saying I'd push drugs on to my younger family, I'm just saying I'd sleep easier at night knowing my 15 year old neices were in a club on coke, fully aware of what they were doing, in charge of their own mind and body, fully capable of functioning correctly, and having a great time...rather than being in a pub, mortal, unable to think clearly or cleverly, lost all sense of streetwise(ness?), unable to hold their own bodies up and about to be taken advantage of by some creepy sex pest.
In my world, coke would be by far the lesser of 2 evils.
Sticking my head in the sand and saying "well you shouldn't do either" is utterly pointless.

and come on man, "They have been around long enough for people to understand the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics" - I didn't even understand that sentence let alone the meaning in it!! And neither would 90% of the population!
You should get yourself a job as a politician!

[Bagpuss]

I know, whats your point? You are saying legalise all drugs on one hand but they should not be available on the NHS on the other? Are you suggesting we give dealers a license? Fair enough if they are taxed appropriately as alcohol and tobacco are but that would make them expensive again and then you would be back to square one with a black market. Prescription is the only way to get any kind of control.

No I don't think they should be on the NHS it's not an illness! Let it be sold over the counter in specialist private sector shops. What would you objection to that be? Some idiot might die?


PS Sally I am not saying don't do drugs, I am saying people need to know the potential consequences, you so far have proved only that you don't. I can introduce you to someone who's life is well and truely fecked up due to harmless drugs. Due to my advice she is now starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[freakydancer]

No I don't think they should be on the NHS it's not an illness! Let it be sold over the counter in specialist private sector shops. What would you objection to that be? Some idiot might die?


PS Sally I am not saying don't do drugs, I am saying people need to know the potential consequences, you so far have proved only that you don't. I can introduce you to someone who's life is well and truely fecked up due to harmless drugs.

Are you taking this headteachers stance because you've just hit 40 and no longer feel young by any chance??

[snaw]

and come on man, "They have been around long enough for people to understand the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics" - I didn't even understand that sentence let alone the meaning in it!! And neither would 90% of the population!

Laughed out load at this one for real, got an image of Bagpuss with a white lab coat and a clipboard, lecturing in a nasally voice on the evils of doing drugs.

[SallyAnne]

PS Sally I am not saying don't do drugs, I am saying people need to know the potential consequences, you so far have proved only that you don't. I can introduce you to someone who's life is well and truely fecked up due to harmless drugs. Due to my advice she is now starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

"Due to my advice she is now starting to see the light"

oh my god

Isn't the world a better place with you in it!

[gingerjedi]

No I don't think they should be on the NHS it's not an illness! Let it be sold over the counter in specialist private sector shops. What would you objection to that be? Some idiot might die?

Because the cost of the care that would be needed just like fags and booze would have to come from somewhere and that would be a tax which would push the price up and defeat the object as there would be a black market run by gangsters like we have today.

It’s the same as cheap fags being sold on the streets, the government gets no tax from them yet has to foot the bill for the NHS care that is needed when people fall ill.

[freakydancer]

Due to my advice she is now starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

So she's now on acid is she?

I saw all kinds of things - lights, bats, talking beer pumps, mates face turning onside out etc - I'd ask for my money back if all I saw was a light at the end of a tunnel.

[Bagpuss]

"Due to my advice she is now starting to see the light"

oh my god

Isn't the world a better place with you in it!

When someone is caught up in a downward spiral they can't see sense anymore. They can't undersatnd why their life is a mess through the clouded thinking/the anxiety attacks/ the ever increasing lows after the highs. Yes I helped someone, is that a bad thing?

I will put it like this, if you (need to) take drugs everytime you go out you have a problem!

[snaw]

What about having a drink every time you go out?