David Bowie was right!

[WTFH]

Seems you & they would consider Martin McGuinness to be the same as Margaret Thatcher.

Would I?

Maggie didn't attack buildings and claim they were legitimate targets because a Catholic might have visited there once. Neither did she claim that all Catholics were terrorists.
Maggie didn't launch attacks in foreign countries - yes, that's right, Lebanon is not part of Israel.

Conflating the Troubles in Ireland with the violence in the middle east is a bit of a massive stretch, although there are similarities which I suspect you'd strongly object to. Peace can't be achieved if children are educated to hate those different to them. Peace can't be achieved when extremists are in power.
But I'm sure you have a better solution, involving rounding people up based on their religion and denying them any human rights.

Thatcher and McGuinness were diametrically opposed to certain things. After Thatcher, others came along who eventually worked together rather than against each other. Still might have different ideas as to what they want as a long term solution, but they were intelligent enough to understand that killing people doesn't bring about peace, and maybe a life is worth more than a flag.

[vetran]

Suddenly realised the latest government (New Lie 2.0) have achieved it well at least on their front benches.

THATCHER: Yes. It's all very simple. I want you to abolish economists.
HACKER: [Mouth open] Abolish economists, Prime Minister?
THATCHER: Yes, abolish economists. And quickly.
SIR HUMPHREY: [Silkily] All of them, Prime Minister?
THATCHER: Yes, all of them. They never agree on anything. They just fill the heads of politicians with all sorts of curious notions, like the more you spend, the richer you get.

[vetran]

Would I?

Maggie didn't attack buildings and claim they were legitimate targets because a Catholic might have visited there once. Neither did she claim that all Catholics were terrorists.
Maggie didn't launch attacks in foreign countries - yes, that's right, Lebanon is not part of Israel.

Conflating the Troubles in Ireland with the violence in the middle east is a bit of a massive stretch, although there are similarities which I suspect you'd strongly object to. Peace can't be achieved if children are educated to hate those different to them. Peace can't be achieved when extremists are in power.
But I'm sure you have a better solution, involving rounding people up based on their religion and denying them any human rights.

Thatcher and McGuinness were diametrically opposed to certain things. After Thatcher, others came along who eventually worked together rather than against each other. Still might have different ideas as to what they want as a long term solution, but they were intelligent enough to understand that killing people doesn't bring about peace, and maybe a life is worth more than a flag.

Seems you know little about Maggie and the Attacks on Israel.

Maggie did authorise force on terrorists a number of times. The Iranian embassy siege was the first time the SAS had been used in England.
I can assure you that lethal force was used on people who claimed not to be terrorists repeatedly by the British army at her direction sometimes sadly with collateral damage.. They terrorists also hid amongst civilians and extorted them like Hamas though they weren't quite as big on tunnel digging. Civilian casualties were quite high.

She did recapture the Falklands which upset the Argentinians (they thought they owned it like the Palestinians and the British should get out despite the fact the Argentians had no real history of living there) . She didn't actually invade anyone like B'liar.

Israel has attacked buildings in a designated war zone and shown clear evidence of terrorists using the local population as human shields in these areas.

Israel was again attacked by Lebanon (I think the war is now on 8 fronts none of which Israel started). there are pictures and everything of the rockets being fired at Israeli civilians. You may be able to get eyewitness accounts from UNFIL who were stationed in Lebanon to support Resolution 1701. i.e. after Lebanon lost the last war of extermination they started that Lebanon and the terrorists they house & fund must not fire rockets at Israel. UNFIL have sat and watched thousands of rockets launch since 8/11/2023 and did nothing what are Israel to do in such a case?

If someone attacks your country unprovoked you are entitled to fight back. Or you can roll up & die like the whole of Arabia wants then Iran etc. will start on the rest of the world. Look forward to submission or slavery.

There are some differences the Irish terrorists tend not to engage in wholesale gang rape or beheading by spade. Most don't live in another safe country and spend the donations on huge mansions, they do both like extorting and the local population.

No I agree completely peace can't be achieved when the populace are educated and sponsored to hate & kill Jews so lets disband UNWRA who have been doing this for 20 years. Remove those people who sponsor "pay to Slay" i.e. Hamas and other terror organisations, remove any payments that are made. Not sure the Israeli education system has similar flaws.

Which religion do you feel are being rounded up? You realise that Israel removed 10,000 + Jews from Gaza (for their safety) before they handed it over to the Gazans for self rule? If you want apartheid then try to go to Gaza as a Jew. You will be rounded up and beheaded.
Which religious sites can Israeli's not visit? Which can Muslim's not visit and why?

In Israel you are treated as an Equal citizen if you are an Arab even entering Parliament and the justice system at senior levels.

In a war you are treated as suspicious until they verify that you are safe. Standard practice for any army since Sun Zu.

Israel have regularly supported peace, on October the 8th 2023 they said if Hamas returned the hostages and Hamas leadership surrendered there was no need for war.

Useful idiots then support Hamas.

[sadkingbilly]

OI VEY Solly - you need to get out more!

[vetran]

Racist epithet and proof you have a sick stalker

FTFY!

[WTFH]

FTFY!

You mentioned Iranian Embassy (not in Ireland), the Falklands (not in Ireland), but yet you talked about Maggie & Martin.

I don't know what meds you are on, but your sense of logic is completely screwed.

Anyway, you keep supporting the bombings in Lebanon (a country, made up of human beings, even though you repeat that they are all terrorist supporters), and I'll keep on hoping that there could be peace if the idiots stop supporting extremists.

Unfortunately, you keep standing up for and justifying extremism, saying that it's always someone else's fault, someone else started it.

[WTFH]

Suddenly realised the latest government (New Lie 2.0) have achieved it well at least on their front benches.

This from the man whose source of news is running a story about how disgraceful it is that Reeves subscribes to the FT and the Economist (£371 in the last few months) and that is terrible, but Rees-Mogg expensing taxpayers £1100 "to move paintings" is fine, as was Johnson expensing his £250k defence for his involvement in party gate.

How many standards do you have, apart from double?

[NotAllThere]

If we arrest Netanyahu they'll "crush us like a grape"...

And we'll let out a little whine.

[vetran]

You mentioned Iranian Embassy (not in Ireland), the Falklands (not in Ireland), but yet you talked about Maggie & Martin.

I don't know what meds you are on, but your sense of logic is completely screwed.

Anyway, you keep supporting the bombings in Lebanon (a country, made up of human beings, even though you repeat that they are all terrorist supporters), and I'll keep on hoping that there could be peace if the idiots stop supporting extremists.

Unfortunately, you keep standing up for and justifying extremism, saying that it's always someone else's fault, someone else started it.

Do I need to use crayons again next time for you?

Maggie used force against terrorists at the Embassy and in the Falklands just as she did in Ireland. Only the terrorist McGuinness was involved in the last one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Hezbollah the terrorist group supported by the Lebanese government (see resolution 1701 for Lebanon's last unprovoked attack.) and Iran have been sending rockets at Israeli civilians on a daily basis since the 8/11/2023 having been stopped in 2006 by Israel winning and the UN brokering a cease fire. Israel are surgically attacking the missile sites attempting to reduce civilian casualties. The UN could have done something in the last year while Israel was dealing with Hamas etc in Gaza. Sadly Israel has to do it or have more civilians murdered and displaced.

Problem is if you site the missile in some families' bedroom/attic they tend to die when the missile is destroyed.

Try reading this it has pictures sadly for you no crayons!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../113619401.cms

The reality and lessons of history are that these extremists will not see sense until they are near defeat, look at how many ceasefires they have ignored. There will not be peace until the terrorist organisations that wish to murder every man woman & child in Israel are defeated.

What extremism? Israel could wipe out the Gazan population in an afternoon, they clearly have chosen not to. Have Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran shown similar restraint?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/...main%20unknown.

Allegedly 42,000 deaths in Gaza and approx half of those were considered combatants maybe many others died natural deaths or shot by Hamas? We don't know Hamas refuse to tell us. Pretty low, the US would bomb them back to the stone age and they would have invaded them with no threat to their populace.

Do please explain what extremism I support? Please avoid the words genocide & apartheid as brains far more clever than you have concluded Israel are not engaging in those. Do understand if a country is attacked it has a right to respond and Israel have been far more restrained than many other countries in a similar situation.

I am all for Terrorists returning hostages then putting down their weapons and peace breaking out, by their actions so are the Israelis. Sadly most of the nutters around there want Israel to cease to exist, they are willing to die & lie to achieve it seems you are one of those?

[vetran]

And we'll let out a little whine.

we need to let it ferment first!