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    #41
    Originally posted by saptastic View Post

    Not everytime - no one has ever said that??

    Just do not have a complete ban on referring to them as a terrorist group.
    And where applicable apply the label as every other broadcaster does.
    why are you trying to defend this?

    Hamas are a designated terrorist group. The bbc refuse to acknoweldge this - unlike every other broadcaster (bar Al jezeera)
    Defending what, when you appear to be misrepresenting what the BBC have been doing?

    As I say, I don't watch or listen to BBC news, but WTFH does and says they do refer to Hamas as a designated terrorist organisation.

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      #42
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post

      Try reading my posts since you refuse to answer any questions, then deflect back to shouting a question you have shouted so many times before, yet you never read the answer each time I give it. There's no point in me answering it any more, it's shameful that you keep asking, like you think you're being clever, when it's rather offensive.
      But I forgive you.


      How do you eliminate terrorist organisations?
      How do you define who is an active member, who is a supporter, who is forced to support them? Kill them all, because that's the safest option?
      The people in the US who gave money to Noraid to buy guns and semtex that killed military and civilians in the 1970s-2000s, are those people terrorists? Should they be "eliminated" too?
      When is one man's terrorist another man's freedom fighter?
      This idea of eliminating anyone that you don't like, where would you stop on the "slippery slope" to use the Fail phrase?

      I have answered your question and others before you even asked them.

      Now we are into desperate whataboutery from you.

      Israel are quite clearly avoiding killing civilians where possible but Hamas and the other terrorists must go.

      Lets try making it simple

      Hamas are terrorists who wish to kill all the Jews and eliminate Israel (its in their constitution and their school books). Call them militants if you are the BBC but sensible people recognise them as genocidal terrorist nutters.

      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #43
        Have Israel given any estimates for the following?

        1) Starting number of Hamas
        2) Number eliminated so far
        3) Number still remaining

        Have they said what the target is, percentage-wise?

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          #44
          Originally posted by woody1 View Post
          Have Israel given any estimates for the following?

          1) Starting number of Hamas
          2) Number eliminated so far
          3) Number still remaining

          Have they said what the target is, percentage-wise?
          Yes
          1.30-35,000
          2. 10-12,000
          3. One supposes when all of the kingpins are dead as in Iraq.

          Oddly the overall casualty figures released by Hamas are almost linear despite the phases Israel pursued but they are from a world leading "militant" organisation so they are obviously correct.

          The Israeli embassy in the UK told us they think the total number of Hamas fighters killed is "between 10,000 and 12,000".

          But they said it was hard to distinguish between civilians and combatants as many of them are not wearing military uniform and Hamas also has fighters who are aged 16 and 17.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #45
            Originally posted by saptastic View Post

            Hamas Charter Article 7 calls for the death of Jews and "and the only solution is through Jihad"
            Hamas kills their own people if they disagree with them or are gay.

            They are a terrorist organisation who murder and rape and hold women and children hostage. Yet the BBC cant call them that. Pathetic.
            You're paraphrasing from an out of date document #JustSaying

            While the 1988 Hamas Charter had been widely criticized for its antisemitism, the 2017 document stated that Hamas' fight was not with Jews as such because of their religion but with the Zionist project. However, Hamas fell short of repudiating the original, 1988 charter, saying it was a document of its time and the new document represented Hamas's position for now.
            Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

              You're paraphrasing from an out of date document #JustSaying
              You don't think Hamas may be lying?

              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #47
                Originally posted by vetran View Post

                You don't think Hamas may be lying?
                It's nothing to do with what I think, I was highlighting a fact.
                Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                  #48
                  Try this

                  https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/hamas-its-own-words

                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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