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    #41
    Originally posted by Protagoras View Post
    People I know are planning to take the 25% in the next month to mitigate that risk and also the risk that the limit is reduced.
    The maximum tax free cash you can take across all your pension arrangements is £268,275.

    It was of course quite a bit higher when the Lifetime Allowance was higher, for example £450,000 in 2012.

    I hope it will be very difficult for Labour to removed this completely but they might well reduce the limit to say £100k. And of course we all know they think anyone with a couple of shillings in their back pocket is considered 'wealthy' and must be taxed to the brink of extinction.

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      #42
      Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post

      I hope it will be very difficult for Labour to removed this completely but they might well reduce the limit to say £100k. And of course we all know they think anyone with a couple of shillings in their back pocket is considered 'wealthy' and must be taxed to the brink of extinction.
      Quite a few suggestions around that the cap could be reduced, and rumours of reduction to 20%.
      Never mind that people have be planning retirement for years under current arrangements.

      Even worse, if taking the lump sum was to trigger the reduced MPAA.


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        #43
        Originally posted by Protagoras View Post

        Quite a few suggestions around that the cap could be reduced, and rumours of reduction to 20%.
        Never mind that people have be planning retirement for years under current arrangements.

        Even worse, if taking the lump sum was to trigger the reduced MPAA.

        I think they will reduce the tax free lump sum amount .... however they will give some form of advanced warning .... eg. from next April you will only be able to take 200k or 100k tax free. Doing it immediately would cause carnage for those about to retire.

        Increasing Employer NI is very likely to happen ... and of course is probably the most unfair tax for all those Contactors caught Inside. The while Inside argument by the Government is that you are a disguised employee and therefore not an employer .... but hey you need to pay the employer NI as somebody needs to ...and we are just about to increase it.

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          #44
          Originally posted by mogga71 View Post
          Increasing Employer NI is very likely to happen ...
          Increasing tax on employment, what a brilliant plan to help the economy!

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            #45
            Originally posted by willendure View Post

            Increasing tax on employment, what a brilliant plan to help the economy!
            Well someone has to pay for an ever expanding civil service...
            Blog? What blog...?

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              #46
              Just been chatting with my neighbour who works in pensions. He says they are incredibly busy, with people grabbing their 25% tax free lump sum. He's been telling people that its very unlikely any change would happen before April 2025, but people are not listening to advice to wait and see and want to withdraw immediately!

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                #47
                Originally posted by escapeUK View Post
                Just been chatting with my neighbour who works in pensions. He says they are incredibly busy, with people grabbing their 25% tax free lump sum. He's been telling people that its very unlikely any change would happen before April 2025, but people are not listening to advice to wait and see and want to withdraw immediately!
                It's not a bad option, to be fair. It's currently 25% of the balance at the time of withdrawal, less any withdrawals monies already taken. Better to pay tax on a smaller withdrawal than on the whole thing...
                Blog? What blog...?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by malvolio View Post

                  It's not a bad option, to be fair. It's currently 25% of the balance at the time of withdrawal, less any withdrawals monies already taken. Better to pay tax on a smaller withdrawal than on the whole thing...
                  A better option would be to put in a parliamentary Act just to exclude your own personal pension from any tax rises - think this can't be done? Well someone found a way.. check out the 2013 Act - "The Pensions Increase (Pension Scheme for Keir Starmer QC) Regulations"

                  https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/.../contents/made

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