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Indians can now ‘remote-work’ in the UK while on a tourist visa

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    #11
    Costs of outsourcing to India are no longer as cheap as they once were. Other growing/emerging Asian offshore centres include Vietnam and even Pakistan. These two countries alone have 350m people and longer term I reckon they will start to be more serious competitors to India. The same might apply to Indonesia one day.

    The Phillipines is another although historically they have been geared up to work with mainly North American companies.

    Not sure what the situation is in Eastern Europe now. Ukraine was a big outsourcing location but I guess a lot of that has been absorbed elsewhere recently. One supplier I worked with last year had moved many of their staff from Ukraine to Estonia.



    Originally posted by dsc View Post

    Asia / South America - perhaps that's doable, but I'd still say double that figure
    East / Central Europe (Czechia, Poland etc.) - absolutely no way, they would easily charge you 4-5k euros per month as individuals on perm contracts, I'm not even going to mention how much it would be via consultancies or directly via b2b arrangements.

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      #12
      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
      Not just Indians.


      I absolutely agree, the industry is full of cowboys.
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #13
        When the fun stops, STOP.

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          #14
          Originally posted by edison View Post
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          Not sure what the situation is in Eastern Europe now. Ukraine was a big outsourcing location but I guess a lot of that has been absorbed elsewhere recently. One supplier I worked with last year had moved many of their staff from Ukraine to Estonia.
          Loads of Ukrainians fled to Poland, so if they can work remotely they will carry on from there. I'd venture a guess and say that countries like Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Hungary are still relatively cheap, but their neighbours on the Western side - that ship has sailed, cost of living is so high, you can no longer get people there on the cheap (you still get a good bang for your buck and good solid engineers, it's just not cheap).

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            #15
            Originally posted by dsc View Post

            Loads of Ukrainians fled to Poland, so if they can work remotely they will carry on from there. I'd venture a guess and say that countries like Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Hungary are still relatively cheap, but their neighbours on the Western side - that ship has sailed, cost of living is so high, you can no longer get people there on the cheap (you still get a good bang for your buck and good solid engineers, it's just not cheap).
            Huh? Estonia and Hungary cheap?

            Been working with people from both countries including remote for over a decade.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #16
              welcome to global capitalism!
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                Huh? Estonia and Hungary cheap?

                Been working with people from both countries including remote for over a decade.
                Cheap-er than Poland / Czechia I'd say. Have you talked to the people you work with re cost of living in their countries? or know the rates they are on?

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                  #18
                  Apparently, many IT roles are in the skills shortage list.
                  Fkn Rishi and his Infosys wife.

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