Revisionism again

[sadkingbilly]

are you welsh?

[Gibbon]

Cultural change by coercion is fundamentally bad, even if you think it is morally justifiable.

Slavery? Maybe you should write an essay on that using Mr A Lincoln as a prime example.

[JustKeepSwimming]

are you welsh?

These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English.

[malvolio]

Again more gaslighting.

Yet when people talking about Britain's misogyny problem or Britain's white supremacy problem any calls of NOT ALL BRITONS/MEN! get shouted down as denialism.

Because the shouters are not sufficiently well educated in history to put events into the context of the belief system in place at the time those events occurred, but childishly insist on applying our current morality to them. Given that current morality itself is getting to the point of absurdity, there's little point in arguing with them, only aiming to minimise the damage.

In other words, tulip happened, get over it.

[sadkingbilly]

These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English.

not what i asked

[JustKeepSwimming]

You get what you're given.

[Paddy]

Slavery? Maybe you should write an essay on that using Mr A Lincoln as a prime example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

Interestingly, one of the first, if not the first slave owner in the US was black.
Anthony Johnson (c. 1600 – 1670) was an Angolan-born man who achieved wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. Held as an indentured servant in 1621, he earned his freedom after several years, and was granted land by the colony.^[1]

He later became a tobacco farmer in Maryland. He attained great wealth after completing his term as an indentured servant, and has been referred to as "'the black patriarch' of the first community of Negro property owners in America".^[1]

[sadkingbilly]

You get what you're given.

welsh then, thought so

[vetran]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

Interestingly, one of the first, if not the first slave owner in the US was black.
Anthony Johnson (c. 1600 – 1670) was an Angolan-born man who achieved wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. Held as an indentured servant in 1621, he earned his freedom after several years, and was granted land by the colony.^[1]

He later became a tobacco farmer in Maryland. He attained great wealth after completing his term as an indentured servant, and has been referred to as "'the black patriarch' of the first community of Negro property owners in America".^[1]

Well before Europeans got to Africa from 2600 BC a significant slave trade existed with Africans and Arabs.

[Gibbon]

Well before Europeans got to Africa from 2600 BC a significant slave trade existed with Africans and Arabs.

Is is permissible to point out to an erstwhile accuser that your descendants were slave owners of his/her descendants that his/hers were slave traders?