Conviction overturned

**Zigenare** · 27 July 2023, 05:48

Originally posted by Protagoras View Post

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-is-a-free-man

A shocking injustice to the both the innocent man and the victim.

Is that the familiar sound of 'failure to disclose' we hear again?

Not the first and I doubt it will be the last. Stefan Kizko and the murder of Lesley Molseed is a case in point.

**anonymouse** · 27 July 2023, 08:24

Originally posted by Protagoras View Post

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-is-a-free-man

A shocking injustice to the both the innocent man and the victim.

Is that the familiar sound of 'failure to disclose' we hear again?

As I understand the original sentence was 7 years, but because he would never admit guilt, they slapped another 10 years on top.

**SueEllen** · 27 July 2023, 08:32

Originally posted by anonymouse View Post

As I understand the original sentence was 7 years, but because he would never admit guilt, they slapped another 10 years on top.

He served his full sentence because he refused to admit guilt. (I know other people like that.)

If he had admitted guilt he would have been out after 7 years.

Regardless he was still would have been in the sex offenders register which means he couldn't travel abroad.

**xoggoth** · 27 July 2023, 08:50

Some convictions are insane. The post office scandal or that couple jailed for murdering their babies when nobody thought to raise the possibility of a genetic factor, probably loads of others online. You wonder how the justice system can be so daft sometimes.

**wattaj** · 27 July 2023, 09:00

Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

Some convictions are insane. The post office scandal or that couple jailed for murdering their babies when nobody thought to raise the possibility of a genetic factor, probably loads of others online. You wonder how the justice system can be so daft sometimes.

There is a very thin veneer of competence across all institutions. Very thin indeed.

**vetran** · 27 July 2023, 09:58

About time!

There was unknown DNA on the victim. They just closed the case instead of running the DNA profile against future criminals put on the data base. XXXMyDNA etc. search their database almost instantly and tell you if like some posters seem to have Norfolk style parents or unknown siblings.

**Gibbon** · 27 July 2023, 10:23

Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

Some convictions are insane. The post office scandal or that couple jailed for murdering their babies when nobody thought to raise the possibility of a genetic factor, probably loads of others online. You wonder how the justice system can be so corrupt sometimes.

Until the people who with wilful intent carried on with things like this are properly punished then it will go on.

Someone close to me complained to their employer (a Council no less) about been gaslighted and was ignored. They put a grievance in about it been ignored and the council created false evidence that an investigation had took place. It was only through FOI and a meta data analysis that the fraud could be proven. No one was punished, but it cost the council a lot.

**SueEllen** · 27 July 2023, 10:36

Originally posted by Gibbon View Post

Until the people who with wilful intent carried on with things like this are properly punished then it will go on.

Someone close to me complained to their employer (a Council no less) about been gaslighted and was ignored. They put a grievance in about it been ignored and the council created false evidence that an investigation had took place. It was only through FOI and a meta data analysis that the fraud could be proven. No one was punished, but it cost the council a lot.

They then move on and work for L&Q housing and similar.

**JustKeepSwimming** · 27 July 2023, 11:31

Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

Some convictions are insane. The post office scandal or that couple jailed for murdering their babies when nobody thought to raise the possibility of a genetic factor, probably loads of others online. You wonder how the justice system can be so daft sometimes.

You will be shocked how many times CPS turns up at magistrates court with an empty case file. They do a last ditch effort to pressure the defendant to just plead guilty, if they don't they withdraw the case. Granted it's low level offences.

And yet the SNP wants to abolish juries in rape cases solely to increase conviction rates, and we all know what that means

Conviction overturned