ye deity imagine if she had shouted & waved at her!

[vetran]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

Uninsured driver who killed 12-year-old girl in horror road crash before fleeing scene with her boyfriend and lying to police about who was behind the wheel is jailed for 18 months
Sana Patel was thrown from the car after Hannah Jones lost control at 90mph
Jones has since been jailed for 18 months for the incident

[northernladuk]

That's shocking but is sadly inline with guidelines.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...erate-driving/

Careless or inconsiderate driving falling not far short of dangerous driving

15 months’ custody

36 weeks – 3 years’ custody

With aggrevating factors of

Irresponsible behaviour, such as failing to stop or falsely claiming that one of the victims was responsible for the collision

but I imagine with mitigating circumstances being the lack of a seat belt being worn by the poor victim. With a seatbelt it would likely have not ended if a fatality.

So as shocking and saddening as it is it is inline with guidance but doesn't seem to factor anything on for the perverting the course of justice.

Very sad.

[ladymuck]

If the child wasn't wearing a seat belt isn't it the responsibility of the adult(s) present to ensure they are wearing it?

[SueEllen]

If the child wasn't wearing a seat belt isn't it the responsibility of the adult(s) present to ensure they are wearing it?

Yep until the child is 14.

The penalty is a fine.

[northernladuk]

If the child wasn't wearing a seat belt isn't it the responsibility of the adult(s) present to ensure they are wearing it?

Absolutely hence the sentence not reflecting the loss of life. The woman driving caused a crash, the negligence of the parents contributed to the loss of life. So as sad as it is the driver did not directly cause the death even though the story makes it look like it did.

[vetran]

Absolutely hence the sentence not reflecting the loss of life. The woman driving caused a crash, the negligence of the parents contributed to the loss of life. So as sad as it is the driver did not directly cause the death even though the story makes it look like it did.

yep

https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law
should be 3 points for yourself (Darwin candidacy) and 6 points for a child.

she was of course not insured and from the sounds of it partially under the influence.

[WTFH]

yep

https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law
should be 3 points for yourself (Darwin candidacy) and 6 points for a child.

she was of course not insured and from the sounds of it partially under the influence.

Her having insurance would not have saved the child's life.
But the headline needs to be written in a way to enrage the readership.

There's no mention of her having been drinking, never mind "from the sounds of it partially under the influence", unless I've missed where that is written or implied.

[northernladuk]

There's no mention of her having been drinking, never mind "from the sounds of it partially under the influence", unless I've missed where that is written or implied.

Can't be proved but very hard not to assume it. Do they sound like a pair that would be sensible enough for one not to drink so they other could drive? Absolutely not. Is it possible, I guess so.

[vetran]

Her having insurance would not have saved the child's life.
But the headline needs to be written in a way to enrage the readership.

There's no mention of her having been drinking, never mind "from the sounds of it partially under the influence", unless I've missed where that is written or implied.

Not driving because she was uninsured and getting a cab would have saved a life.

My apologies they are insisting on me doing some work this week. The father had been drinking which is why she was driving uninsured and she lied and said he was the one driving at 90mph when the crash happened.

Death by dangerous driving should 3 years plus.

Uninsured driving frequently means other offences

https://www.nationalworld.com/lifest...-spots-3925778

As part of the operation, running from 21-27 November, the MIB is working with the NPCC’s National Roads Policing Operations to support spot checks on drivers. Paul Farley, law enforcement manager at MIB, said: “Put simply, uninsured drivers are dangerous. They cause a much higher rate of collisions, and they’re often linked to wider road crime including hit-and-run crashes.

“It’s sadly become an all-too-common experience to hear on the news that yet another person’s life has been cut short after being hit by an illegal motorist.