Even the opposition get it

[vetran]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63707941

Sir Keir called for a plan to train British workers and move the economy away from its "low-pay model".

But he accepted the need for skilled foreign workers and promise a "pragmatic" approach to immigration.

His speech comes at a time when businesses are calling for more migrant labour to boost economic growth.

The Labour leader's speech to the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) conference in Birmingham followed that of Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Monday.

Next attack in work benefits so employers pay decent wages and tax in the uk

[Whorty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63707941



Next attack in work benefits so employers pay decent wages and tax in the uk

I did read that article and wondered how someone like yourself with very strong views on certain areas, can support and vote for a party that morally is totally at odds with your views. In many ways you do seems like a voter more suited to Labour traditions rather than these poor excuse for tories.

Not a criticism or insult, just an observation

[vetran]

I did read that article and wondered how someone like yourself with very strong views on certain areas, can support and vote for a party that morally is totally at odds with your views. In many ways you do seems like a voter more suited to Labour traditions rather than these poor excuse for tories.

Not a criticism or insult, just an observation

Fair observation, Labour is normally cast as the solution to labour abuse. Among other things.

Sadly last time Labour were in power (the B'Liar & B'Ruin days) they encouraged mass immigration, encouraged offshoring, driving down wages, throwing money at the NHS without reform and of course leaving empty coffers.

Their leaders after that were terrible, Jezzebell was quite happy to abandon MAD which would please Putin, imagine how much pressure we could apply if that useful idiot were in charge.

I have said before that I was hopeful when Sir Keir started however he hasn't impressed. His statements are a repost of Mr Sunaks sensible retort to the CBI that they need cheap labour not reform.

I have to vote for those least likely to do damage and sadly that is currently the conservatives.

[NigelJK]

Would be nice if we could vote for policies not people. I think the Swiss system is more in line with this thinking?