DOOM: House of Lords

[_V_]

It's kind of pointless arguing what the HoL should be. It will either be as it is now (full of lickspittles and party donors) OR the Labour vision of a new progressive and fair upper house.

Since the odds are the next govt will be lead by Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB KC you lot need to get over it

[malvolio]

It's kind of pointless arguing what the HoL should be. It will either be as it is now (full of lickspittles and party donors) OR the Labour vision of a new progressive and fair upper house.

Since the odds are the next govt will be lead by Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB KC you lot need to get over it

Sadly there are a lot of legal, constitutional and political experts out there who will destroy Starmer's master plan. The system we have has worked for the last 350 years or so: the problem is not the system but the pygmies it currently contains. A few statesmen wouldn't go amiss but instead we get politicians.

Equally sadly, Starmer is a populist who says whatever he thinks people want to hear that week.

It is a measure of Sunak's weakness that Labour are ahead, not of Starmer's ability or popularity.

[sadkingbilly]

It is a measure of Sunak's weakness that Labour are ahead, not of Starmer's ability or popularity.

thus spake zarathrusta

[AtW]

Shirly, it's treason for the supposedly Official Leader of the Opposition to make such proposals, what's next - abolish the monarchy?

[_V_]

Shirly, it's treason for the supposedly Official Leader of the Opposition to make such proposals, what's next - abolish the monarchy?

One can only hope, would love to see a Brexit style bus with abolish the monarchy on the side

[NotAllThere]

It means the second chamber is full of rejects and, what is worse, set up to vote along party lines, which will almost certainly be a reverse of the make-up of the House. So what is the benefit?

That is the benefit!

[DoctorStrangelove]

thus spake zarathrusta

I thought he did rockets.

Very Big Rockets.