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The separate thread about how awful Queen Elizabeth was and the Royal Family is
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Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
What would you like to see as a head of state instead? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky.
My struggle with an elected head of state is that it becomes a political appointment and you get the farce you see in the USA and France, for example. I would dearly love to see a good example of an alternative where the head of state is an independent, ceremonial role and the person fulfilling that post is respected and adds value without having an agenda.
There is no solution that is going to work for us as we aren't used to that position so it's going to be 10's of years before we are used to that position and accept it as a country.
He's got no argument why he hates them so much and refuses to see the benefits which is his perogative but discussing it will get no where with his stance on the situation. He's just sounding off rather than making and argument or discussion.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
What would you like to see as a head of state instead? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky.- has had a career in politics and distinguished themselves for excellence in their service. Could be someone who served as PM/Minister/member of Parliament/someone who had some important role in the EU Parliament
- is ELECTED by the Parliament every X years
- has no political power, just representative
- receives an adequate salary, not millions and millions of taxpayer's money like the monarchs
- is not above the law, unlike the monarchs
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Originally posted by Paddy View PostThe royals are like MS Windows, one good version followed by a crap version.
George VI: an all round good chap.
EIIR: excellent.
KCIII: time will tell.When the fun stops, STOP.Comment
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Originally posted by PCTNN View Post- has had a career in politics and distinguished themselves for excellence in their service. Could be someone who served as PM/Minister/member of Parliament/someone who had some important role in the EU Parliament
- is ELECTED by the Parliament every X years
- has no political power, just representative
- receives an adequate salary, not millions and millions of taxpayer's money like the monarchs
- is not above the law, unlike the monarchs
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Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
Interesting, not unreasonable. Elected by the whole parliament I'd agree with. Upper and lower houses. I'd also go so far as to say the shortlisting should be done by a cross-bench committee too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_ItalyComment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
What would you like to see as a head of state instead? Genuine question, I'm not being snarky.
My struggle with an elected head of state is that it becomes a political appointment and you get the farce you see in the USA and France, for example. I would dearly love to see a good example of an alternative where the head of state is an independent, ceremonial role and the person fulfilling that post is respected and adds value without having an agenda.
It is the will of the people.Comment
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I'll try again
has had a career in politics and distinguished themselves for excellence in their service. Could be someone who served as PM/Minister/member of Parliament/someone who had some important role in the EU Parliament
is ELECTED by the Parliament every X years
has no political power, just representative
receives an adequate salary, not millions and millions of taxpayer's money like the monarchs
is not above the law, unlike the monarchs
Involving policitians is just the very worst thing you can do. Look how bad we've had it for many years and they are the most hated set of public servants around. How is that going to be any bigger. That list is an utter joke.
What about all the ceremony, history, head of the army as well as many many charities and much more. All this smacks of a blind hatred of the Monarchy without having a clue what they do, are and represent and being totally deluded about what an ex politician can bring to the party.
I'd rather just give the job to Helen Miram.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostBy jingo I think I've broken the forumComment
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