Truss IR35 review

**AtW** · 20 August 2022, 20:40

The review will be done by the Treasury which in 2-3 years will inevitably conclude that ...

**eek** · 21 August 2022, 07:45

Let's be blunt.

HMRC have £70bn reasons for IR35 to stay as it is and the unions would prefer people to remain employed rather than being shunted into limited companies for a couple of more quid...

**jamesbrown** · 21 August 2022, 08:02

It will probably end up like Javid’s review, realistically. She does actually have longstanding views that are sympathetic to small businesses. For example, from 2018:
https://mobile.twitter.com/dstevens/...83489576292352

But, realistically, there will be major pressures on gov’t coffers in the coming year or two, she won’t have the bandwidth and HMT and HMRC will be dead against, obvs.

**GregRickshaw** · 21 August 2022, 08:29

There's that word again... 'genuinely'

**AtW** · 21 August 2022, 16:02

Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

She does actually have longstanding views that are sympathetic to small businesses.

Sym-pathetic sounds like one million miles away from pro small business views, and in any case it's just what - views? Not convictions she'd die for, and it's all in the past anyway, her main objective in life was to climb the grease pole and she is almost there now.

**SueEllen** · 21 August 2022, 16:34

Originally posted by AtW View Post

Sym-pathetic sounds like one million miles away from pro small business views, and in any case it's just what - views? Not convictions she'd die for, and it's all in the past anyway, her main objective in life was to climb the grease pole and she is almost there now.

And then she can be rich - rich like Bliar....

**jamesbrown** · 21 August 2022, 17:52

Originally posted by AtW View Post

Sym-pathetic sounds like one million miles away from pro small business views, and in any case it's just what - views? Not convictions she'd die for, and it's all in the past anyway, her main objective in life was to climb the grease pole and she is almost there now.

I mean, you can read them. Pro small business. I don’t believe she is being asked to sacrifice her life for them, though.

**mallisarealperson** · 22 August 2022, 10:44

Originally posted by eek View Post

Let's be blunt.

HMRC have £70bn reasons for IR35 to stay as it is and the unions would prefer people to remain employed rather than being shunted into limited companies for a couple of more quid...

Have they really got more revenue because of IR35?

**northernladuk** · 22 August 2022, 11:28

Originally posted by mallisarealperson View Post

Have they really got more revenue because of IR35?

Question is what revenue would they have lost without it. Everyone in the world would be via LTD and employment wouldn't exist. There has to be a legislation of some form to define the boundaries and taxation of different types of work. They just haven't done a very good job of IR35.

Truss IR35 review