Its all getting rather silly now

[vetran]

The point was he repented of his former life. Wokeness doesn't allow for this.

“Four legs good, two legs bad.”..

[d000hg]

The point was he repented of his former life. Wokeness doesn't allow for this.

Lots of the things in the spotlight these days are huge philanthropic works but because the instigator was once a slaver, or were friends with a slaver, or aren't recorded as being anti-slave, this counts for naught. So the hymn is surely on the danger list

I'm not sure if Newton wrote Amazing Grace before or after he turned abolitionist but for many this doesn't matter. Ironically, the message of forgiveness is exactly what is missing from the modern view... if you made money from slavery then renounced it and gave all the money away you are not a reformed character to be celebrated, you're just a racist slaver.

[northernladuk]

Lots of the things in the spotlight these days are huge philanthropic works but because the instigator was once a slaver, or were friends with a slaver, or aren't recorded as being anti-slave, this counts for naught. So the hymn is surely on the danger list

I'm not sure if Newton wrote Amazing Grace before or after he turned abolitionist but for many this doesn't matter. Ironically, the message of forgiveness is exactly what is missing from the modern view... if you made money from slavery then renounced it and gave all the money away you are not a reformed character to be celebrated, you're just a racist slaver.

Doesn't having some non white friends count either?

[OwlHoot]

“Four legs good, two legs bad.”..

To be fair, that's a sound principle .. when applied to a table!

[Gibbon]

Doesn't having some non white friends count either?

No, its abuse as they're now coconuts and you as a white privileged person must have forced them.

[SueEllen]

No, its abuse as they're now coconuts and you as a white privileged person must have forced them.

But they could be bananas.

Either way the friendship is false as it is only NLUK's perception of the relationship.