DOOM: BoJo

[SueEllen]

Rees Moggy has just said to the Commons if the PM is found to have broken the rules it is the fault of the rules.

This guy last night was doing the rounds on the media insulting the Scottish Tory leader and threatening the stability of the union.

[vetran]

Triggered!

If you think the Tories are centre, it shows how far to the right this country has slipped. Bliar was further right than Maggie.

Hardly triggered if Labour could just field someone decent (Surkeer has shot his bolt) Even Ed is looking good then Labour could win.

B'liar the war criminal is hardly a good measure if you ever want Labour to be elected.

They are most definitely left of traditional Tories, remember I grew up as a Maggie's child after Labour left us in darkness.

Immigration = talk tough but do nothing. Maggie would have sent full troop carriers with gun boats to Calais. Maybe a quick drive in a tank.
Benefits = in work benefits she would have had a fit at subsidising big firms to pay less tax.
Housing = she would have her ministers out there carrying hods and mixing concrete.
NHS=spank the wastage run India with 1000 staff but can't run a town hospital with the same number.
BLM and other campaigns= mounted police were a favourite.

[WTFH]

They are most definitely left of traditional Tories, remember I grew up as a Maggie's child after Labour left us in darkness.

You've been groomed well.
Labour took over in 1974 after the Tories brought the country to its knees. It wasn't Labour who introduced the 3 day week. Take a look at your history before cancelling it.

[vetran]

You've been groomed well.
Labour took over in 1974 after the Tories brought the country to its knees. It wasn't Labour who introduced the 3 day week. Take a look at your history before cancelling it.

Sorry which party has strong links and was indeed funded by the NUM who decided to strike for weeks causing the 3 day week? Understand your history before spouting opinions. This was one of the reasons Maggie had to beat Scargill.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...king-week.html

But, when the country was gripped by strikes by coal workers in the 1970s, the lights really did go out.

From 1972, the then Tory Prime Minister Edward Heath became locked in political battle with the immensely powerful and militant National Union of Mineworkers.

Unlike today, most of Britain's electricity came from coal, and so crisis struck when miners voted to strike over wages for six weeks between January and February 1972.

Miners picketed power stations in an effort to restrict coal supply, leading to mass blackouts around the country and businesses being forced to close.

Whilst that strike came to an end with the Government's capitulation and a pay rise for miners, the following year saw further unrest when ministers capped public sector wages amid an inflation crisis – as the NUM demanded a further pay hike of 35 per cent.

Our current energy crisis is caused by Greta & Putin do you blame the Tories? I partially do because they have failed to diversify into effective green energy supplies but so have every government since Maggie.

[d000hg]

You've been groomed well.

That's hilarious. I can't think of a more blinkered personality on here. We could write your replies for you.
You need to be less obvious in the trolling, or everyone will get bored engaging like the pro-Trump sockies.

[WTFH]

Sorry which party has strong links ...

Ah, so the argument is "it's the fault of the party with links to the people who went on strike because they were being given pay cuts."

And yes, the Wail report is interesting in the bits it leaves out - the 1972 strike came to an end when the government agreed not to give them a pay cut but a pay rise. Then the same government failed to deliver to that agreement, so the miners went on strike for more.

Now, please explain how Greta is responsible for our current energy crisis? Are you sure it's not due to the government failing to invest in securing the country's energy requirements, then borrowing off China to get France to build power plants for us? Makes you proud to be British when a Swedish teenager and the Russian president have brought a country to its knees having suffered austerity (that did not impact millionaires/billionaires) for the last decade.

Are you sure all the UK's issues aren't the fault of some other foreigners as well?

[mattster]

Our current energy crisis is caused by Greta & Putin do you blame the Tories? I partially do because they have failed to diversify into effective green energy supplies but so have every government since Maggie.

"Caused" by Greta is a bit rich, and Putin is only taking advantage of a situation that already exists. Like it or not, we need to "go green", but of course this needs to be managed properly and no recent government has done that. Large scale nuclear (started 15 years ago) would have been one way, plus proper incentives to insulate homes - which on its own would mitigate much of the present crisis. Germany's reaction to the Japan disaster obviously didn't help either, shutting down all of their nuclear capability and becoming reliant on Putin's gas.

[vetran]

Ah, so the argument is "it's the fault of the party with links to the people who went on strike because they were being given pay cuts."

And yes, the Wail report is interesting in the bits it leaves out - the 1972 strike came to an end when the government agreed not to give them a pay cut but a pay rise. Then the same government failed to deliver to that agreement, so the miners went on strike for more.

Now, please explain how Greta is responsible for our current energy crisis? Are you sure it's not due to the government failing to invest in securing the country's energy requirements, then borrowing off China to get France to build power plants for us? Makes you proud to be British when a Swedish teenager and the Russian president have brought a country to its knees having suffered austerity (that did not impact millionaires/billionaires) for the last decade.

Are you sure all the UK's issues aren't the fault of some other foreigners as well?

Not according to the Slaver

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/...past.politics1

On the afternoon of the "battle of Saltley Gates" Heath ordered that a court of inquiry should be set up under Lord Wilberforce to look into the miners' grievances. He was to give the miners nearly everything they wanted, including a 27% pay rise.

But the papers do show that when, the next day, the NUM rejected the Wilberforce inquiry recommendations and demanded a further £1 a week, Mr Heath was prepared to call in the troops and the citizen drivers. "To fight and lose would be bad enough; not to fight at all would be worse," he told the cabinet.

The prime minister himself took personal charge of the negotiations. He stood firm over the extra £1 a week but an extra £10m package of fringe benefits sealed the total victory for the miners.

No its the fault of the NUM who fund labour you can't have Tory sleaze without Labour sleaze.

Greta was a bit of a joke, so I expected you to go straight to Xenophobia. Though moves to green energy have driven a lot of the crisis.

Yes previous governments like with NUM have failed to tackle the issues.

[AtW]

Now, please explain how Greta is responsible for our current energy crisis?

She is the secret off the books owner of Gasprom, that's how.

Plus the girl is too smart for her age - must be a witch.

HTH

vetran

[OwlHoot]

"Boris Johnson is doomed, but Rishi Sunak might not be the saviour the Tories crave

Downing Street’s May 2020 bring-your-own-booze party has reignited the despair about Boris Johnson’s leadership that the remaining Conservative optimists hoped might disappear over the winter break. Now, though, the blaze has revived with a vengeance. Johnson’s apology to the Commons does not solve this in any way.

The apology merely confirms what was already clear: an astonishingly insensitive breach was committed at the height of the first lockdown. This dereliction did not just feature Johnson as a participant: it was marked by his very character. His apology, with its continued pretence about a work event within the regulations, lacks either moral worth or political credibility.

Conservative MPs are well aware their leader is a dodgy chancer. Some of them actively admire this. Others are happy to profit from it. Many loathe it while quietly despising themselves for permitting it. But the style works only while it succeeds. Most Tories had put Johnson on probation after his spectacularly disastrous December. The fresh explosion this week means they are now looking more urgently than before at the alternatives."

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...prime-minister

Pretty pathetic that the worst thing BoJo supposedly had done was to have that party

I seriously wonder if all this hooha wasn't a crafty set up engineered by that civil servant who actually organised the party, knowing that it would completely discredit Boris when news of it emerged, so he would have to resign and hopefully be replaced by a remainer prime minister. Civil servants are known to be fanatical remainers, almost to a man and woman!