London is a world leader

[vetran]

In congestion

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...pplier%20Inrix.

An increase in cycle lanes during the coronavirus pandemic contributed to London becoming the world's most congested city, new analysis shows.

Drivers in the capital will lose an average of 148 hours stuck in jams across the whole of 2021, according to traffic information supplier Inrix.

That is just 1% down on pre-coronavirus pandemic levels, a much smaller decline than many other major cities.

A cycling charity says blaming new cycle lanes is "incredibly simplistic".

Last year, London was ranked only the 16th most congested city.

[Mordac]

Low traffic neighbourhoods are worse than cycle lanes. A mate lives near 2 of them (edge of Islington) and it's a no-go area for taxis, as it takes 45 mins to go a mile since they shut off the side streets.

[ladymuck]

And I suspect the 20 mph speed limits on lots of main roads aren't helping either.

[DaveB]

Don't believe everything you read int he papers, or on the BBC.



https://twitter.com/_Dermatologist/s...485260290?s=20

[SueEllen]

And I suspect the 20 mph speed limits on lots of main roads aren't helping either.

Makes no difference.

Traffic lights are actually the main cause of lots of congestion. You can easily see that when they are off completely or after they redesign a road and put them in.

[OwlHoot]

I drove to London a couple of months ago, and later received a letter warning me that I had been in a Low Emission zone, with the implication I had done something wrong.

I've seen signs for these, but what on Earth are they? Obviously they're Low Emission zones, as their name suggests, but I mean when is one supposed to DO about them? Turn the engine off and get out and push the car?!

[SueEllen]

I drove to London a couple of months ago, and later received a letter warning me that I had been in a Low Emission zone, with the implication I had done something wrong.

I've seen signs for these, but what on Earth are they? Obviously they're Low Emission zones, as their name suggests, but I mean when is one supposed to DO about them? Turn the engine off and get out and push the car?!

It was a pre-emptive warning if you do it now you get a nice big fine.

[mattster]

I drove to London a couple of months ago, and later received a letter warning me that I had been in a Low Emission zone, with the implication I had done something wrong.

I've seen signs for these, but what on Earth are they? Obviously they're Low Emission zones, as their name suggests, but I mean when is one supposed to DO about them? Turn the engine off and get out and push the car?!

I drove through a couple of weeks ago for the first time in years (I'm originally from there). The amount of traffic regulations now is bordering on the surreal - bus lanes operating at different times, starting and stopping all over the place, 20mph zones, ULEZ at different times, neighbourhoods near my Dad's with total traffic bans (including residents) for various hours of the day, no parking or (app) paid parking almost everywhere. My Google maps camera alarm was going off every few seconds and I think the chances of me not getting some infraction notification through the door in the next couple of weeks are slim. You'd have to be mad to drive there now (this is clearly a war on cars - maybe not a bad thing), but it wasn't cyclists that were the problem.

[OwlHoot]

I drove through a couple of weeks ago for the first time in years (I'm originally from there). The amount of traffic regulations now is bordering on the surreal - bus lanes operating at different times, starting and stopping all over the place, 20mph zones, ULEZ at different times, neighbourhoods near my Dad's with total traffic bans (including residents) for various hours of the day, no parking or (app) paid parking almost everywhere. My Google maps camera alarm was going off every few seconds and I think the chances of me not getting some infraction notification through the door in the next couple of weeks are slim. You'd have to be mad to drive there now (this is clearly a war on cars - maybe not a bad thing), but it wasn't cyclists that were the problem.

Absolutely! That was also my impression, having left London on 2014.

I never even went near the congestion zone, but was pottering around the outskirts, in Putney and Wimbledon. But it seems this low emission zone now applies everywhere inside the Outer Circular.

[ladymuck]

You have pay a small ransom if you drive through the ULEZ in a non-compliant vehicle.