Has any one refused Covid Vaccination?

[northernladuk]

Pretty sure I've had flu - bad enough to cancel Christmas and we didn't even care - but I don't rush for a flu jab and I don't think I'm immune. Probably take one this year since they're making a massive push and we have some pretty elderly types in our church I want to do my best to protect

Oh you'll know if you had a good dose of flu alright. If you think you've had it it was either extremly mild or it wasn't.

[northernladuk]

It's challenging, a lot (almost all) of the messaging around Covid and Covid vaccine has been more akin to wartime propaganda than it has to any kind of public health messaging or scientific messaging. .

You know in this day and age you can go research beyond the messages you are being fed in the news and on TV don't you? I think you've either only been watching/reading the wrong stuff or not enough of it. Plenty PH and scientific messages out there.

We have good quality studies showing natural immunity is much much stronger and lasts longer than vaccine immunity yet many countries don't recognize it, general advice is to still get vaccinated regardless when the science really doesn't support it.

Ah, definitely reading the wrong stuff then.

[d000hg]

Oh you'll know if you had a good dose of flu alright. If you think you've had it it was either extremly mild or it wasn't.

This chestnut is up there with "do or don't there is no try". I think being incapacitated for several days is likely an indication of flu, but it's not a guarantee.

The NHS say, and I see no reason to doubt them (especially as they are on a major Flu jab drive this winter)

The symptoms of flu are similar to a very bad cold. They include a high temperature, an aching body, tiredness and a headache.

People who say "you'd know if it was flu" probably had a particularly bad bout and don't realise it can vary from year to year and person to person. Or maybe they get some sort of odd superiority "you didn't have what I had", because people will find the strangest things to boast about.

[jayn200]

You know in this day and age you can go research beyond the messages you are being fed in the news and on TV don't you? I think you've either only been watching/reading the wrong stuff or not enough of it. Plenty PH and scientific messages out there.



Ah, definitely reading the wrong stuff then.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...415v1.full.pdf

What's not valid about it?

There are plenty of countries that recognize natural immunity don't get me wrong. Lot's of countries that are following the science in their messaging. Just the US federal government is not one of them.

[northernladuk]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...415v1.full.pdf

What's not valid about it?

There are plenty of countries that recognize natural immunity don't get me wrong. Lot's of countries that are following the science in their messaging. Just the US federal government is not one of them.

Lucky we aren't in the US then

[NotAllThere]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...415v1.full.pdf

What's not valid about it?

Have another look at that document. See that bit at the top? It reads: "...not certified by peer review..." Medrixiv.org is a pre-print server. That means not peer reviewed. It may have mistakes in process or analysis that invalidate it. It's promising, but not "the science" yet.
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