Where are the women & kids?

[vetran]

Point of order, you claim segregation. Many of those at the front are clear adult males. (Cue cries of "but they'll be accepted as child refugees anyway").

However, some people are True Believers. No matter what evidence is presented they'll persist in their demonstrably false beliefs.

I reminded very much of those who insisted this was staged: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-50713236.

The rules about females being near a male allow for male relatives to accompany them. I suspect the mixed clusters are families.

From Dubai where my sister in law lived for years 10 years ago, a female (over 12) can be accompanied by her brother, father, husband and uncles. She could not go out with her female friend and the friends husband without a male relative. They were enlightened enough to allow her to leave the house on her own.

Dubai has relaxed the rules recently but even lonely planet suggests you wear a wedding ring and call your boyfriend husband to avoid trouble with the religious police and sex pests.

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/united-...men-travellers

Saudi still has the same rules as 10 years ago, segregation is still front and centre. Male control of women would have our feminists horrified if they bothered to look.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/07/1...ianship-system


Islam is a great religion if you believe, the implementation of it is very unpleasant in parts.

[WTFH]

Islam is a great religion if you believe, the implementation of it is very unpleasant in parts.

The same is true of "christianity", but there isn't as much about that in the populist press.

[vetran]

The same is true of "christianity", but there isn't as much about that in the populist press.

Plenty of discussion about Christians who support the death penalty and abortion in all the papers I see. Christians slowed down a bit on torture after the inquisition. Islam still likes beheading, stoning, whipping and similar.

As you may know I consider neither superior or believable. But mainly Christian countries tend to be nicer to live in. Hopefully this will be the same with Islamic countries eventually, see the changes in Dubai, but that is still a little scary.

However now it becomes clear

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ul-resume.html

guns and body armour are dumped at airport in the desperate rush to catch rescue flights out of Afghanistan

and no the wail shouldn't have published that video on the story so don't click.

The young men are Afghanistan Army troops who know they are dead when the Taliban arrive.

[WTFH]

Plenty of discussion about Christians who support the death penalty and abortion in all the papers I see. Christians slowed down a bit on torture after the inquisition. Islam still likes beheading, stoning, whipping and similar

What about christians who support/cover up child abuse?
And "christians" who turned children into slaves, not during the inquisition, but during your lifetime?

[SueEllen]

What about christians who support/cover up child abuse?
And "christians" who turned children into slaves, not during the inquisition, but during your lifetime?

What about those who took children away from female children/young women?

[ladymuck]

What about the systematic abuse of aboriginal people by the Australian government, both historic and current, the latter of which the UN regularly tells the Oz government off about but they choose to ignore.

[NotAllThere]

But mainly Christian countries tend to be nicer to live in.

I'd hate to live in a Christian theocracy.

Anyway, since we're playing whataboutery.

What about the systematic abuse of Jews, Christians and assorted other religious and ethnic groups at the hands of atheistic communists? What about the children of such groups who were forcibly taken from their parents and raised in appallingly resourced orphanages?

[vetran]

What about christians who support/cover up child abuse?
And "christians" who turned children into slaves, not during the inquisition, but during your lifetime?

Hey if there were a God he would do something about that wouldn't he?

Locking up a load of misbehaving criminals is fine with me.

[vetran]

I'd hate to live in a Christian theocracy.

Anyway, since we're playing whataboutery.

What about the systematic abuse of Jews, Christians and assorted other religious and ethnic groups at the hands of atheistic communists? What about the children of such groups who were forcibly taken from their parents and raised in appallingly resourced orphanages?

Which Christian theocracy are you thinking of?

I just made an observation that Islam has a way to go until it is seen as a modern religion that western people want to live under.


All religion is anathema to me. Communism is as bad if not worse.

[NotAllThere]

Hey if there were a God he would do something about that wouldn't he?

He did.

Which Christian theocracy are you thinking of?

The one the American religious right would like to set up. Like these Charlies. Though with some of their pronouncements sound more like ye olde one worlde government of the Anti-Christ.