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    #31
    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post

    Oy! That's my gag! (although I pinched it off someone else )
    I certainly pinched it off someone else. Probably you.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #32
      I'd tell you a SNMP joke but you might not get it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
        Got approached by the internal hiring team from a company. Their recruitment process looks like this:

        Our hiring process will take an average of 10 days:

        Stage 1 - Phone Interview - 20min
        Stage 2 - Take Home Technical Challenge - 2h
        Stage 3 - Technical interview - 90 min
        Stage 4 - Planning & Delivery Interview - 60min
        Stage 5 - Meet the CTO or Engineering Manager
        Stage 6 - Meet the team

        What a wonderful time to be alive.
        Personally, I think that process is way over the top for contractors that can be let go of in a blink of eye ( assuming it's a contract role).

        But on the flip side as Whorty said, if you think of it as a sales process, it's not that bad. Let's say the gig is £450 a day (outside IR35, agency is getting paid £500), you work 48 weeks a year and you stay there for 36 months. For them they'll be paying out a total of £360k (exc VAT), so I can understand why they want to have a few extra stages to find someone who can do the work and is going to fit in.

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          #34
          Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
          In my experience, the obscure technologes, such as SNMP, are especially well-worth including as these can put you above the crowd
          I'm not sure that including the 8085 assembler or the GA16-220 FORTRAN IV have ever done much though, to be sure, they're pretty obscure.

          Or the HP Rocky Mountain Basic.
          When the fun stops, STOP.

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            #35
            Originally posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post

            I'm not sure that including the 8085 assembler or the GA16-220 FORTRAN IV have ever done much though, to be sure, they're pretty obscure.

            Or the HP Rocky Mountain Basic.
            ROSCOE script development.
            Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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              #36
              Originally posted by BillHicksRIP View Post
              I'd tell you a SNMP joke but you might not get it.
              now you're trappped!
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #37
                INFOMAN panel exits in HLAL

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

                  ROSCOE script development.
                  I can write "Grip", but not this famous one http://docs.aviacons.ru:8383/data_se...ro/int_ov.html even more obscure. Probably 20-50 people who have ever written it in anger.


                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post

                    I worked at a little chef for a while. Only evenings and weekends as I was at school at time. Didn't stay for very long, probably only about 3 or 4 months.
                    about the same it was while I was at college a happy few months earning drinking vouchers and bunking off.
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Whorty View Post

                      Are all 31 year olds such whingers, or are you an exception? If you want a job, roll up your sleeves and get on with it. If not, stop complaining.

                      You're a contractor. You run a company. It takes work for a company to win new business. See the interview process as a sales process, that's all. Or think like a permie and see it as a job interview.
                      They tend to be, so called generation snowflake. A lot are also very easily offended, talking with them is like a minefield. I have thick skin.

                      Well, I think in the very spirit of the thread this is an example of a client that does not have a role and is just doing interviews for interview's sake.
                      If you have 6 stages with at least 2 days between them, you'll easily get to a month and no good resource stays on the market for that long.

                      People more aware of how it works please correct me but: I think that they have to build proof that they've looked for resources in UK before being able to bring someone from outside. And this is very much the case with a lot of the roles I've encountered.

                      They need some poor buggers to be refused for pesky reasons so they can build-up the file and bring a resource on short leash.

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