Pubs that check Covid status may be allowed to drop social distancing

[AtW]

"Pubs that check Covid status may be allowed to drop social distancing

Exclusive: plan under consideration as Boris Johnson tells MPs landlords should set criteria for entry

Pubs could be allowed to ditch social distancing rules and allow people to crowd together as long as they check customers’ Covid status on entry, the Guardian understands.

Details of the proposed incentive emerged as Boris Johnson told MPs he believed landlords should be able to set the criteria for entering their establishments.

The comments from Johnson, a far stronger endorsement of the widespread use of Covid certification than has previously been made by the prime minister, prompted an immediate backlash from some Conservative MPs, who called it “a dangerous path”.

Johnson said he believed Covid certification had the backing of the British people who understood the need for protective measures, and suggested he backed a more wide-ranging use for vaccine passports, which a committee led by Michael Gove is currently investigating."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...sports-pm-says

[mallisarealperson]

"Pubs that check Covid status may be allowed to drop social distancing

Exclusive: plan under consideration as Boris Johnson tells MPs landlords should set criteria for entry

Pubs could be allowed to ditch social distancing rules and allow people to crowd together as long as they check customers’ Covid status on entry, the Guardian understands.

Details of the proposed incentive emerged as Boris Johnson told MPs he believed landlords should be able to set the criteria for entering their establishments.

The comments from Johnson, a far stronger endorsement of the widespread use of Covid certification than has previously been made by the prime minister, prompted an immediate backlash from some Conservative MPs, who called it “a dangerous path”.

Johnson said he believed Covid certification had the backing of the British people who understood the need for protective measures, and suggested he backed a more wide-ranging use for vaccine passports, which a committee led by Michael Gove is currently investigating."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...sports-pm-says

Get ready for the 3rd 4th 5th you get the gist.

[northernladuk]

Dumbest idea ever

[AtW]

Don't worry, Tory Scum don't like 2 tier societies -

"Steve Baker, the Conservative deputy chair of the Covid Recovery Group of lockdown-sceptic MPs, said it was deeply concerning.

“Whether the state legislates for it, recommends it or simply allows it the result will be the same,” he said.

“A two-tier Britain that prevents pregnant women from taking part in society (AtW's comment: that's going to a pub during pandemic, whilst pregnant), given that the government is telling them not to take the vaccine, or one where we turn back the clock and tolerate businesses turning away customers from communities which have shown an unfortunate hesitancy to take up the offer of a vaccine. We must not fall into this ghastly trap.”

[ladymuck]

Don't worry, Tory Scum don't like 2 tier societies -

"Steve Baker, the Conservative deputy chair of the Covid Recovery Group of lockdown-sceptic MPs, said it was deeply concerning.

“Whether the state legislates for it, recommends it or simply allows it the result will be the same,” he said.

“A two-tier Britain that prevents pregnant women from taking part in society (AtW's comment: that's going to a pub during pandemic, whilst pregnant), given that the government is telling them not to take the vaccine, or one where we turn back the clock and tolerate businesses turning away customers from communities which have shown an unfortunate hesitancy to take up the offer of a vaccine. We must not fall into this ghastly trap.”

Top trolling there AtW.

So the only obvious conclusion from your snarky little comment there is that pregnant women should be kept locked away, not allowed to go out to meet anyone in their support network.

[ladymuck]

This is an awful idea. It's discrimination, plain and simple.

[SueEllen]

Don't worry, Tory Scum don't like 2 tier societies -

"Steve Baker, the Conservative deputy chair of the Covid Recovery Group of lockdown-sceptic MPs, said it was deeply concerning.

“Whether the state legislates for it, recommends it or simply allows it the result will be the same,” he said.

“A two-tier Britain that prevents pregnant women from taking part in society (AtW's comment: that's going to a pub during pandemic, whilst pregnant), given that the government is telling them not to take the vaccine, or one where we turn back the clock and tolerate businesses turning away customers from communities which have shown an unfortunate hesitancy to take up the offer of a vaccine. We must not fall into this ghastly trap.”

The two groups he gave in his example are the ones unlikely to go to the pub.

The people he should have mentioned is those under 30 and those who are 16/17.

The first group are the ones who are going to be vaccinated last e.g. so won't be fully vaccinated until Autumn, and also most of the employees of such establishments.

The second group are the ones who are going to turn 18 without being vaccinated unless there is a policy put in place of vaccinating teenagers once they turn 18.

[ladymuck]

The two groups he gave in his example are the ones unlikely to go to the pub.

The people he should have mentioned is those under 30 and those who are 16/17.

The first group are the ones who are going to be vaccinated last e.g. so won't be fully vaccinated until Autumn, and also most of the employees of such establishments.

The second group are the ones who are going to turn 18 without being vaccinated unless there is a policy put in place of vaccinating teenagers once they turn 18.

Do you have a slightly narrow idea of what constitutes a pub? They're not all horribly filthy and grim with sticky carpets. Lots of pubs are very nice and clean and are the hub of their local community.

I'm hoping you're not suggesting that 16/17 year olds are going into licensed premises to engage in under age drinking as they're not allowed to be served at the bar. I presume you mean families going out for a meal and those teenagers being supervised...

[AtW]

So the only obvious conclusion from your snarky little comment there is that pregnant women should be kept locked away, not allowed to go out to meet anyone in their support network.

Pregnant women should act in a way that won’t endanger their future child - having a soft drink in a pub (even full of vaccinated people) and risking getting Covid is very reckless behaviour.

My snarky comment was mainly aimed at Posh Tory scum who supposedly don’t like multi-tier (class) society

[AtW]

This is an awful idea. It's discrimination, plain and simple.

Discrimination that might be totally legal, moral and just common-sensible, otherwise pubs will go bust and less people (especially the sort that might love pubs - younger folks) get vaccinated