Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine batch halted after blood clots

[SueEllen]

It is safe according to the EMA.

(yawn)

[mattster]

It is safe according to the EMA.

(yawn)

Yeah. Even if it turns out that there is a causal link between these (very) few blood clotting cases and the AZ jab, the simple maths tells you that it would still be several orders of magnitude safer to take the vaccine than to take your chances with Covid, even at a relatively young age (and this just based on mortality, not long covid etc). Almost all drugs have some side effects, and many will have one in a million severe side effects that don't stop them being useful.

[Mordac]

It is safe according to the EMA.

(yawn)

Well I had mine this morning and I haven't gone yet...

[vetran]

Well I had mine this morning and I haven't gone yet...

we would be able to tell?

[vetran]

I also wonder how much vaccine goes to waste considering many people in parts of Belgium, Germany and other countries aren't showing up for their appointments?

7 Million doses of AZ stockpiled in the EU apparently. Those doses could get them to 20% vaccinated.

[mattster]

Let's see what the uptake is now that the EMA has said it is OK.

[Whorty]

Reading this without first reading the post you are replying to, I assume 'they' is the EU. I know (because it's you ) it almost certainly isn't, but here's why I think you're wrong.

Vaccine manufactured in the UK by AZ was never intended for export, it was intended to supply agreed contracts with the UK Govt. The important thing to remember is that it not up to the UK Govt or the EU whether vaccine supplies are exported, it is up to AZ, who have contracts to supply.
If the UK appears to be getting some sort of preferential treatment, that may be because the UK contracts were signed months before the EU decided they ought to be doing something similar. Or it may be because the AZ vaccine has been widely rubbished, notably in Germany and France (at Presidential level). Or a bit of both.
The EU might like to believe they have the authority to prevent AZ from moving stocks around their supply chain, but if this was tested in the courts, I doubt the EU would have a leg to stand on.

Nope, you're wrong ... 'they' are the EU, or specifically the ones playing politics with lives. You see, unlike Brexiters, whilst I'm not anti-EU as a concept, that doesn't mean I support everything they do. For me, politicians can be as bad as each other whichever rosette they wear. It's not all 'right' vs 'wrong'

And I never said anything about the UK. You're assuming something not mentioned by me

[Whorty]

Well I had mine this morning and I haven't gone yet...

Maybe not freaky, but we can track you now .... and we know what you're surfing when Mrs M goes to bed

[Mordac]

Nope, you're wrong ... 'they' are the EU, or specifically the ones playing politics with lives. You see, unlike Brexiters, whilst I'm not anti-EU as a concept, that doesn't mean I support everything they do. For me, politicians can be as bad as each other whichever rosette they wear. It's not all 'right' vs 'wrong'

And I never said anything about the UK. You're assuming something not mentioned by me

My apologies.

[Mordac]

we would be able to tell?

Fair point.