getting into the US !

[tim123]

You need a Visa. Why you would want to try to enter the US without one is beyond me. Its such a simple process to get one and you'll be legal!

I for one don't think that: taking a day off work, travelling to London to stand in a queue for 8 hours and handing over 100 quid is a 'simple' process.

Filling in a form and posting it, is a 'simple' Visa application process.

Quite apart from considering the risk of having your application rejected.

tim

[Lucifer Box]

I remember when Mrs Lucifer went to get a couple of visas for Jordan from the embassy for us. They were quite pricey at the time, £45 each or somesuch. The functionary dealing with the application offered them for free if she'd sleep with him. When she came home and told me I obviously asked for the £100 back I'd given her that morning and was very disappointed when she said she only had the £10 change.

Ah well, women eh?

[drkooler]

it can be done!

Hello all, allow me to shed some light on to recent discussions. My name is Bob Chickenfuss (real name obscured for legal reasons)

in 2001 I was a student and was skint. I forged fake train tickets to pay for my journey to uni every day. I got caught. Went to court, got conviction for attempted deception (fraud).

Few weeks ago I got caught for speeding in wales and police did pnc check on his radio to see if i was wanted by police etc. The officer on the radio says I have a conviction for the possession of cocaine which i never knew i had! (never knew had conviction, knew i had drugs...!)

Well, since 2001 I have been to usa about 5 times with no trouble getting in on visa waiver. I'm born british and am caucasian if that makes any different i dont know.


2004 in Manchester airport, i get arrested for having 2 passports trying to enter usa again (all innocent, had mate's passport with me, long story). Later that year I try enter USA again on visa waiver, no problem, but when i get thru immigration, an airport worker pulled me up and did a search through all my stuff, bags and wallet etc. He told me it was not a random search. Prob just checking if i had only 1 passport this time.

As for details, everything is transmitted to usa from uk, even your credit card details. They are held in usa, there is concern about privacy, the uk doesnt like it, but the yanks insist.

But after all this, I decide to get myself crb checked. it all comes back clean. how does this happen if i have a conviction for fraud and one newly discovered conviction of class A? i dont know how the law works in this country!

And yes I'm an IT contractor with a past i wanna leave behind too

I think convictions can be erased after a certain time. they wont show up on a basic crb check but they will on an enhanced one.

What do you guys reckon?

[expat]

I think convictions can be erased after a certain time. they wont show up on a basic crb check but they will on an enhanced one.

What do you guys reckon?

I don't reckon US intelligence will fell too pressured to delete data just because a length of time specified for UK authorities to hold the info has passed, what do you reckon?

[Buffoon]

This is the famous PNR data that the septics require for each passenger.

I don't see any requirement to tell the yanks about naughty things one may have got up to when a spotty student.


SCHEDULE 1
(Section 2)

ADVANCE PASSENGER INFORMATION SYSTEM (APIS) DATA




Item Column 1


Specified Passenger Information Column 2

Corresponding Element from Annex III to the Agreement
1. The passenger's surname and first name and initial or initials, if any Passenger's Name
2. The passenger's date of birth Date of Birth
3. The passenger's citizenship or nationality, or failing either of these, the country that issued travel documents to the passenger for the flight Citizenship/nationality/
document-issuing country
4. The passenger's gender Gender
5. The passenger's passport number or, if the passenger does not have a passport, the number on the travel document that identifies the passenger Passport number/
document number

SCHEDULE 2
(Section 2)

PASSENGER NAME RECORD (PNR) DATA




Item Column 1


Specified Passenger Information Column 2

Corresponding Element from Annex III to the Agreement
1. The date on which the PNR was created Reservation date
2. If applicable, a notation that the passenger arrived at the departure gate with a ticket but without a reservation for the flight Go show (no reservation)
3. If applicable, the names of the travel agency and travel agent that made the travel arrangements Travel Agency/Agent
4. The date on which the passenger's ticket for the flight was issued Date of issue of ticket
5. If applicable, a notation that the passenger exchanged their ticket for the flight Exchange ticket
6. The date, if any, by which the ticket for the flight had to be paid for to avoid cancellation of the reservation, or the date, if any, on which the request for a reservation was queued from the transportation company to the ticketing office Ticketing time/
Pre-departure
7. The number assigned to the passenger's ticket for the flight Ticket number
8. If applicable, a notation that the passenger's ticket for the flight is a one-way ticket One-way tickets
9. If applicable, a notation that the passenger's ticket for the flight is valid for one year and that it is issued for travel between specified points with no dates or flight numbers assigned Open ticket
10. The city or country in which travel included in the PNR begins Originating city/country
11. The itinerary cities, being all points where the passenger will embark or disembark Itinerary cities
12. The name of the transportation company that operates the flight Carrier (latest segment)
13. The name of the transportation companies over whose air routes all other segments of travel included in the PNR are undertaken, including, for any of those segments, the name of any transportation company other than the transportation company that issued a ticket Carrier (all segments)
14. The code of the transportation company and the identification number for the flight Flight number
15. The destination in the United States, being the point of turnaround, or a stopover point where the stopover is longer than four hours if the final segment is domestic and 24 hours if the final segment is international Destination
16. The travel date for the flight Date of travel
17. Any seat assignment on the flight that was selected for the passenger prior to departure Seat assignment
18. The number of pieces of baggage checked by the passenger to be carried in the cargo compartment of the aircraft on the flight Number of checked bags
19. The baggage tag numbers Baggage
tag number
20. The class of service in respect of the flight Class of service
21. Any stated seat request in respect of the flight Seating preference
22. The PNR number Record
locator number
23. The phone numbers of the passenger and, if applicable, the phone number of the travel agency that made the travel arrangements Phone numbers
24. The address of the passenger and, if applicable, of the travel agency that made the travel arrangements Addresses
25. The manner in which the ticket was paid for Form of payment
26. If applicable, a notation that the ticket was paid for by a person other than the passenger Paid by another
27. If applicable, a notation that there are gaps in the itinerary included in the PNR that necessitate travel by an undetermined method Gaps in itinerary
28. Routing information in respect of the"travel included in the PNR, being the departure and arrival points, transportation company codes, stops and surface segments Routing information
29. If applicable, a notation that the ticket is in electronic form and stored electronically in the reservation system of the transportation company Electronic ticket information

[Churchill]

Do you not think that your Passport number might cross-reference a record in a database somewhere?

[Bagpuss]

Few weeks ago I got caught for speeding in wales and police did pnc check on his radio to see if i was wanted by police etc. The officer on the radio says I have a conviction for the possession of cocaine which i never knew i had! (never knew had conviction, knew i had drugs...!)

What do you guys reckon?

How do you get a conviction for drugs you know nothing about?
Were you stoned at the time?

[Buffoon]

Could well do.

But the above list is all the yanks get when your flight leaves.

[DimPrawn]

Hello all, allow me to shed some light on to recent discussions. My name is Bob Chickenfuss (real name obscured for legal reasons)

in 2001 I was a student and was skint. I forged fake train tickets to pay for my journey to uni every day. I got caught. Went to court, got conviction for attempted deception (fraud).

Few weeks ago I got caught for speeding in wales and police did pnc check on his radio to see if i was wanted by police etc. The officer on the radio says I have a conviction for the possession of cocaine which i never knew i had! (never knew had conviction, knew i had drugs...!)

Well, since 2001 I have been to usa about 5 times with no trouble getting in on visa waiver. I'm born british and am caucasian if that makes any different i dont know.


2004 in Manchester airport, i get arrested for having 2 passports trying to enter usa again (all innocent, had mate's passport with me, long story). Later that year I try enter USA again on visa waiver, no problem, but when i get thru immigration, an airport worker pulled me up and did a search through all my stuff, bags and wallet etc. He told me it was not a random search. Prob just checking if i had only 1 passport this time.

As for details, everything is transmitted to usa from uk, even your credit card details. They are held in usa, there is concern about privacy, the uk doesnt like it, but the yanks insist.

But after all this, I decide to get myself crb checked. it all comes back clean. how does this happen if i have a conviction for fraud and one newly discovered conviction of class A? i dont know how the law works in this country!

And yes I'm an IT contractor with a past i wanna leave behind too

I think convictions can be erased after a certain time. they wont show up on a basic crb check but they will on an enhanced one.

What do you guys reckon?

With your background you are wasted in IT. You should join the Labour Party.

[Swiss Tony]

Easy Way In

Go to Mexico

Get in touch with bandito's and get a balloon of cocaine stuffed in your ar*s

Walk into the states through numerous underground passages.
End up in Dubya’s office and give him his cut (a good sniff of your ar*e)

Walk out a free man and have your travel fees paid for plus plenty of wonga for a trip to the bunny ranch in Nevada

Sorted