So it begins

[NotAllThere]

You have issues with homosexuality..

Nope.

People had a choice between conversion and death. You are making a very odd argument. Not sure why.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up forcedTuring had a choice between taking a drug that was supposed to control his urges, as it was seen at the time, or prison. Not quite conversion or death.

From here.

Turing’s own counsel hoped to steer the court away from a prison sentence, and alluded to the possibility of organotherapy: “There is treatment which could be given him. I ask you to think that the public interest would not be well served if this man is taken away from the very important work he is doing.” The judge followed the barrister’s lead, sentencing Turing to 12 months’ probation and ordering him to “submit for treatment by a duly qualified medical practitioner at Manchester Royal Infirmary.”

What would have happened to Turning had he ended up in prison instead?

According to the same source

The alternative of prison would probably have cost him his job, and with it his access to a computer. Already his arrest had cost him something else that mattered to him: as he told a friend, he would never be able to work for GCHQ again. One of his Bletchley Park colleagues, Joan Clarke, who stayed on as a peacetime codebreaker, confirmed that Turing visited GCHQ’s Eastcote site after the war as a consultant. But now Turing, the perfect patriot, had unwittingly become a security risk.

Whichever way you look at it, it was hardly a decent way to treat a war hero.

[Old Greg]

Nope.
I'm not sure why you're bringing up forcedTuring had a choice between taking a drug that was supposed to control his urges, as it was seen at the time, or prison. Not quite conversion or death.

So if the Chinese state rounded up a group of Uighur women and told them they had to choose between being sterilised or being sent to prison, and some chose sterilisation, would you consider that forced sterilisation?

[minestrone]

So if the Chinese state rounded up a group of Uighur women and told them they had to choose between being sterilised or being sent to prison, and some chose sterilisation, would you consider that forced sterilisation?

We are just inventing history now.

Noel Coward was as obviously gay as a Mexican table cloth and was able to freely work in military intelligence during the war. He wasn't forced sterilisation.

[AtW]

We are just inventing history now.

Compulsory sterilisation in Sweden - Wikipedia

That was (according to ministrone) voluntary and invented history (ie never happened) anyway

This forum is blessed to have somebody like ministrone - who would otherwise open our eyes on what is REALLY happening?

[minestrone]

Compulsory sterilisation in Sweden - Wikipedia

That was (according to ministrone) voluntary and invented history (ie never happened) anyway

This forum is blessed to have somebody like ministrone - who would otherwise open our eyes on what is REALLY happening?

Honestly?

A link about Swedish sterilisations?

[AtW]

Honestly? A link about Swedish sterilisations?

Were they voluntary?

[Old Greg]

Were they voluntary?

Not worth bothering with Minny, but I expect better from NAT. Hopefully he'll reflect.

[minestrone]

Were they voluntary?

We still forcibly sterilise in this country.

it's horrible, but Turing was not forcibly sterilised.

[AtW]

it's horrible, but Turing was not forcibly sterilised.

And what happened to Turing, in your own words?

[minestrone]

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and alluded to the possibility of organotherapy:

Ahh, William Reich.

Yes, that explains it.